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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:47 PM
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CNN Exit polls: Obama won across demographic lines
Story Highlights
# Obama took more than 80 percent of African-American vote, polls show
# He had support of nearly a quarter of white voters; Clinton, Edwards split remainder
# Polls showed Obama winning majorities across nearly all demographic groups
# Clinton won among voters older than 65, Obama won 18- to 64-year-olds

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) -- Illinois Sen. Barack Obama claimed a major victory in Saturday's Democratic primary in South Carolina, winning overwhelming support from the state's African-American voters and a significant share among whites, according to exit polls.

Obama's win capped a heated contest in South Carolina, the first Democratic primary in the South and the first with a largely black electorate. Supporters raised thunderous cheers at his campaign headquarters in Columbia after news that his leading rival, New York senator and former first lady Hillary Clinton, had called to congratulate him on his win.

Exit polls estimated Obama took more than 80 percent of the African-American vote, which made up about half of Saturday's turnout. And he had the support of nearly a quarter of white voters, while Clinton and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards roughly split the remainder.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/26/sc.exit.polls/index.html
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:53 PM
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1. Those are meaningless observations and apply only to S. Carolina.
Obama can't even come close to a victory in the general election with those kinds of numbers.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:54 PM
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2. Iowa ring a bell?
:eyes:
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:55 PM
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5. Sure, there weren't secret ballots.
Huge difference.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:54 PM
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3. he won Iowa, came very close 2nd in NH and did a decent 2nd in Nevada
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:55 PM
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4. Care to add Iowa (he won), NH and Nevada (almost tied) into the mix. They all prove you wrong.
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 10:55 PM by cryingshame
Oh, and he did stronger in rural areas in NH. Urban areas being definite Democratic strongholds anyway.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:56 PM
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6. Fine. If he's nominated, we will lose 50 states.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:01 PM
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11. lol. you aren't paying attention at all. Dem participation in the primaries
is record breaking and nothing short of astounding. Repuke participation is down, and not even close to what the dems are seeing. And maybe it's your age or something, but if you can't catch a clue from the fact that Barack Obama pulled 25% of the white vote in a three way race in SC, well, you should catch a clue from all the other evidence.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:06 PM
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14. I'm old enough to recognize that 25% of the white vote ain't gonna win shit.
Or is there some new math I haven't heard about here?
:eyes:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:24 PM
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21. You are ignoring Iowa, NH, and NV
He has no problem attracting white voters. He got 50% of all young white voters today. All states are not SC or even close. We won't take SC in the general anyway. I can fucking guarantee you that Obama will do well in several midwestern states on 2/5. He'll win states like Maine and VT on their primary dates. And you completely ignore the FACT that dem participation is way, way up over repuke participation.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:39 PM
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24. If he's nominated, we lost. It's just that fucking simple.
Do NOT say I didn't warn you.
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:00 AM
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26. Your arugement holds no water.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:53 PM
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33. arugement?
:eyes:
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:03 AM
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31. If Hillary gets the nom, we are toast.
And yes, I will be here to tell you I told you so.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:01 PM
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35. If most people think like you - then we've lost already.
I think that who wins the nomination is just one of the factors that will determine the outcome on November 4th.

Until now, Obama has attracted the most support from independents and un-affliated voters.

I am guessing that registered Dems are unlikely to vote for the Republican candidate in November.

So Obama would have a good chance of winning the general. If we all get behind him.

But then I think we could say the same about Hillary Clinton or John Edwards.

So for me it makes sense to support the candidate who we think can actually unite the country and deliver the changes we need.

Yes We Can. It's that fucking simple. B-)

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:03 PM
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12. On what do you base that on, that he won't even get 1 state?
Or our you just expression your passion for your candidate?

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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:05 PM
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13. It's my dispassionate analysis based on 50+ years of political observation.
It has nothing to do with my preference.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:12 PM
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16. The country has changed a lot in 50 years. /nt
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:14 PM
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17. Really? Gee, I hadn't noticed.
:eyes:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:19 PM
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18. and maybe not since Bill Clinton is playing to the worst attributes in people
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:22 PM
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:25 PM
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22. I have seen a lot change. Obama's message tonight was one amazing /nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:40 PM
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aein Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:03 AM
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27. Old politics that got us nowhere. Time for something new.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:00 PM
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9. Rural areas of New Mexico and South Carolina too
He has more more counties than Clinton.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:57 PM
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7. I agree and you know the mediawhores are for obama as
the low expectation for white voters. if obama got over that lower percentage then people like cnn could make that one of the talking points and not make a big deal out of the black vote....

Yes, this is a south carolina vote and all obama did was win....hell it must feel good after losing 2 straight....Now get ready obama to lose yo ass in florida and then lose about 16 to 17 states on 2/5.....enjoy your glory for tonight and tomorrow cause after 2/5 you are finished......
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:23 PM
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20. Funny, but it seems that race is a big issue with the Clinton supporters
I wonder WHY

You probably didn't hear Obama's victory speech tonight, but it had NOTHING to do with race baiting, and everything to do with unity and working together

If this crap continues from the Clinton camp, and she wins the nomination, they will have successfully turned off the African American voter

Very smart strategy NOT
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:00 PM
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10. not meaningless
because it tells you what sort of mood the voters are in. They are fed up of the White House and stale politics. They are looking for something better. Obama's vote in NH was rather large.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:08 PM
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15. That's almost funny.
:eyes:
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:58 PM
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8. totally distorts the numbers: Edwards won whites, yet it acts like Obama did
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:27 PM
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23. yes; it's a very misleading headline and article
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 11:28 PM by spooky3
The reporter needs to take a basic course in interpreting cross-tabs based on demographics.

Obama won big among nearly all age groups of BLACK voters only, and they were 54% of the voters, so that big win combined with winning a small % of non-black voters, was enough to give him the victory. He deserves credit for this victory. However, some people who have seen this as anything more than a victory among Democrats, who are far outnumbered by RW-leaning people in SC (see all previous elections since the 70s), aren't looking at the data.

Of course, many people could critique the groupings of people by demographics only, but that's another question entirely.
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:33 AM
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28. The MSM results of Nevada were just as misleading...
They made it seem like Obama did not "do well" with Hispanics when only roughly 13,000 partisans showed up to caucus. Of which, 6000+ were for HillBillary and 5000+ were for Barack, with 60+% of Hispanics going for HillBillary. The MSM made it seem like this VERY SMALL demographic of all Hispanics in NV represented all of the Hispanics in the US. For some reason, at least during the last election for Shrub, its most likely the case that a majority of the Hispanics in this country vote for the Rethugs for some reason (abortion?).
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:05 AM
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29. it's true that's a small sample but
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 01:18 AM by spooky3
I don't think you have evidence that "a majority of the Hispanics in this country vote for the Rethugs for some reason."

There is substantial diversity within the Latino population. Many Cuban-Americans in So. FL may vote Republican, for example, but El Salvadoran-Ams. in NoVA may vote Dem., as might Mexican-Americans in Calif.

On edit:


sorry, I misread part of your post.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:02 AM
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30. 81% among one race, third among another. That speaks for itself
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ncabot22 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:39 AM
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32. Then Hillary should work harder to get the black vote. eom
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:52 PM
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34. K&R! nt
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