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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:40 AM
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Question, if Obama gets the nomination
What will he do to overcome the disenfranchisement of Democratic voters, the repugs will be out in droves.
Remember 2000 and 2004. It will be hard enough for any Dem.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:42 AM
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1. sorry but if there is one thing this primary has shown
Its that Dem's are motivated like no time in recent history. They are pouring out to the polls in droves.

The pukes on the other hand are staying home or better yet coming out and voting for Dem's!

Sorry but unless our nominee is clinton we win big!
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:44 AM
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15. Clinton is the only way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?
Is that what you are saying?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:44 AM
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2. No matter the candidate, it's up to us to protect our election.
Politicians are politicians and they have different priorities.

We protect the vote or no one does.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:47 AM
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6. How do we protect our vote
Look at Gore, and then Kerry, all the caging
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:15 AM
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16. Get involved with election protection.
If you think that was bad, wait till you see what the Republicans will roll out this time.

We, however, have 2000, 2004 and a lot of research and a much better network to push back with.

The vote caging this time will be just as bad BUT we can predict to a degree where they will try it. We can plan to protect those votes.

They are bumping registered voters off of the rolls. We have to encourage people to check their reg and to prepare in case there is a problem when they go to vote.

We can also help by working with election protection groups FROM NOW until the results come in. Find one if you can. This is every bit as important as walking a precinct for your candidate, imho.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:44 AM
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3. Obama draws dems, independents and repubs... that is a FACT.
How can you be serious. The only candidate that can guarantee a repub victory is Clinton.
She will unify their party like no other. She could even cost us seats in congress as the right will be mobilized.

Which in and of itself is amusing because she is the most republican like of all three remaining candidates
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:53 AM
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11. Yes I'm serious
we have plenty of discussions on DU about stealing the election
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Tulkas Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:44 AM
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4. The same thing he has done to overcome the Clintons attempt at disenfranchisement

Also, you can bet that African Americans will be highly motivated to vote, it will be hard to keep them away from the booth if Obama is on the ticket.


Or you could tell them to vote absentee, to avoid any intimidation or harassment at the polling locations. There are ways to combat these tactics.


Lets worry about that when it happens.

Either way, you can bet more blacks will vote for Barack then they will for Hillary, repugs or no repugs.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:51 AM
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9. If it happens it's to late
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:46 AM
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5. Well, first of all, in that situation hopefully he'll have the support of his current opponents...
...plus John Kerry and Al Gore. When he IS the nominee, he'll get plenty of advice from people who've been there and know what to expect.

Plus, I'd love it if Bill Clinton proves to be an effective "attack dog" for any candidate who wins the nomination, not just Hillary.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:50 AM
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7. Well, he is addressing complaints in Nevada for starters.....
Obama campaign registers formal complaint over Nevada
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/23/obama-campaign-registers-formal-complaint-over-nevada/

also Bills that he has introduced in the U.S. Senate:
S.4069 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 11/16/2006) Cosponsors (4)
Committees: Senate Rules and Administration
Latest Major Action: 11/16/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.]

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S.4102 : A bill to amend the Communications Act of 1934 to prohibit the use of telecommunications devices for the purposes of preventing or obstructing the broadcast or exchange of election-related information.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 12/7/2006) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
Latest Major Action: 12/7/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.

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and, he's got better experience than most in getting folks out to the voting booths. And as a civil rights attorney, he has dealt with disenfranchisement cases before.

Plus working for Project Vote and increasing voter rolls by an unheard before amount in 1992 taught him a thing or two in detecting electionaring fraud when he sees it!

Article from 1993. SEE OBAMA ENFRANCHISING VOTERS.....
and not taking any shit from those POLITICIANS attempting to game the system.

Vote of Confidence
A huge black turnout in November 1992 altered Chicago's electoral landscape—and raised a new political star: a 31-year-old lawyer named Barack Obama.

In the final, climactic buildup to November's general election, with George Bush gaining ground on Bill Clinton in Illinois and the once-unstoppable campaign of senatorial candidate Carol Moseley Braun embroiled in allegations about her mother's Medicare liability, one of the most important local stories managed to go virtually unreported: The number of new voter registrations before the election hit an all-time high. And the majority of those new voters were black. More than 150,000 new African-American voters were added to the city's rolls. In fact, for the first time in Chicago's history-including the heyday of Harold Washington-voter registrations in the 19 predominantly black wards outnumbered those in the city's 19 predominantly white ethnic wards, 676,000 to 526,000.

None of this, of course, was accidental. The most effective minority voter registration drive in memory was the result of careful handiwork by Project Vote!, the local chapter of a not-for-profit national organization.

"It was the most efficient campaign I have seen in my 20 years in politics," says Sam Burrell, alderman of the West Side's 29th Ward and a veteran of many registration drives.

At the head of this effort was a little-known 31-year-old African-American lawyer, community organizer, and writer: Barack Obama.

To understand the full implications of Obama's effort, you first need to understand how voter registration often has worked in Chicago. The Regular Democratic Party spearheaded most drives, doing so using one primary motivator: money. The party would offer bounties to registrars for every new voter they signed up (typically a dollar per registration).

The campaigns did produce new voters. "But bounty systems don't really promote participation," says David Orr, the Cook County clerk, whose office is responsible for voter registration efforts in the Cook County suburbs. "When the money dries up, the voters drop out." Nor did the Democratic Party always vigorously push registration among minorities, Orr says. "It's not that they discouraged it. They just never worked hard to ensure it would happen."
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/January-1993/Vote-of-Confidence

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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:58 AM
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12. impressive thanks
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:50 AM
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8. If Obama becomes President
He better be willing to die to change this country like JFK and do a JFK and not give a shit for whoever contributed to his campaign; that is what JFK did, he did not care who contributed to his campaign after he got into office; he was determined to make a change for the betterment of this nation and for that he was murdered.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:01 AM
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14. that is a given. all candidates realize that they are.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:51 AM
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10. turnout will be huge, and he has civil rights background
more people will have a positive reason to vote, turnout will be much larger just
like in South Carolina.

Read up on Obama's background here, he has broken alot of ground
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:00 AM
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13. as a community activitst he led one of the most successful voter registration
drives in the US. As a presidential candidate he will have the street smarts to get everyone who wants to be registered registered
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