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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:21 AM
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Voters to candidates in NH & SC. Keep gender & race out of it or we will bury you.
Barack Obama & John Edwards appeared to be beating up on Hillary Clinton in the debate. Hillary got a bit emotional during a town meeting and women flocked to her defense (and to the polls) in droves, issuing the "sure thing, Obama, a startling defeat.

In South Carolina, many white voters were put off by Bill Clinton's shenanigans and blacks were outraged. The result, a huge turnout and a two to one route of Hillary Clinton by Barack Obama.

It seems to me that voters are saying to the candidates: STOP IT! WE DON'T LIKE IT! AND WE WILL BURY YOU IF YOU PULL THIS SHIT AGAIN.

I want a hard fought, honest campaign. But dammit, I want something left for the general election. I do not want to store up a great deal of anger and outrage against a candidate who I may end up having to vote for in November.

I'm not a Clinton supporter but right now I could vote for Hillary Clinton if she is the nominee but it would be with a great deal less enthusiasm than I felt two weeks ago. If the Clintons continue to act as if the rules that the other candidates are following don't apply to them ("...on to Florida!")or continue to make coded racial appeals then a great many of the voters who have made this the most exciting primary season in a long time may stay home in November and that would guarantee a Republican victory.

I wouldn't count on Barack Obama being as good a loser as Howard Dean was in 2004. This is deeply personal shit and frankly, I could easily see many of the people Obama brought into the process staying home if he does not have enough dignity left after the Clintons have done with him to give Hillary his full and active support. As for Bill and Hillary supporting Obama if he wins. We'll see about that too.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:26 AM
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1. I have no doubt Hillary would support Obama if he should win,
SC shennanigans to me, was a replay of the 2001 elections in NYC.
And I have been e-mailed by a lot of other voters - from the stolen election time - who feel just like me. Future election votes will be motivated by the fast one MSM pulled on us with South Carolina.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:26 AM
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4. Bill Clinton pulled the fast one and it cost them. this was not a marginal victory
Obama won in a landslide. The clintons need to retool.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:37 AM
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2. It's too bad that we can't talk about "race" or gender in this country
in a thoughtful way. Because I don't think it's race or gender that people are objecting to but to the negativity, the put downs and slurs.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:00 AM
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3. I am sure WE can. But MSM sets the tone, and some freepers on DU as well
I read some fantastic discussions in GE. Thoughtful and really inspiring.
But when we are at the mercy of the MSM - it gets buried. And I do agree - it's a shame - because they need discussing.
MSM did the Rovian trick - took the strength of our primary - made it into a liability. Mishun accomplished.
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