It just struck me, HRC would not be insisting Mich and FL be seated....

If her internal polling didn't show that she needed them.

Think on this, she won 55 percent in MI...the same that BHO won SC..but 40 percent came out and voted Uncommitted. She only won the state by 15 percentage points, and she was the only of the top three on the ballot.

HRC's campaign has become adept at following focused trending. They are very poll driven, Penn is if nothing a master at tracking polls.

Think about NH, and the mailers she sent out with enough time for people to get them, but NOT enough time to respond to them. (The reproductive rights mailers)

Now, lets go back in time 10 years.

Think about when and how her term 'Vast right wing conspiracy' came to light, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vast_right-wing_conspiracy It was again another way to divert and distract from the truth. That Bill Clinton lied to the American People.

Any time she is faced with a challenge to her or her husband, her first gut reaction is to try and change the rules or reasoning of the game. Logically that means she is facing a bigger challenge than is being reported, as is being proven out by her campaigns recent behavior.

I used to be worried that HRC would win the nomination, I'm not so worried anymore.

Hillary supporters, please don't get me wrong. I've never made any bones about the fact that I don't care for your candidate. HOWEVER I do think she is smart, persistent, and tenacious like no one else I've ever seen. I'm realizing that YES she needs to be in politics, however she needs to remain where she is. Where her voice, and her abilities can be used to the greatest degree. If she were to stop looking to the white house, I'm positive she could be a landmark member of the senate. I mean no disrespect, these are simply the ramblings of a political junkies mind.

thought they would help him.

If a) he actually had his NAME on the ballot in MI - he followed the party rules and now he should just give up votes he never was able to recieve in the first place?

He would have been fine with allowing FL - but now that the race is here, and he again followed the rules and stayed out of FL, he's suppose to just allow his competitor to roll in because she needs the votes?

This is the 3rd time Hillary has tried to change the rules when the votes don't seem to be rolling her way. FL, MI - and the NV union fiasco.

Of COURSE Hillary wants Florida.... the people who tend to vote for her are old white people (her top demographic). I hear Florida has quite a few of them - so it maes sense.. but they all agreed to these Rules months ago, and now that the primaries aren't going like her polls indicated last year, she wants to change the rules.

TOUGH.

Barack did break the rules by running many campaign ad in Florida on CNN even though they had a contract not to campaign or run ADS in Florida. Believe me, I live in florida and see his ads every day.

If you buy a media package on those stations - i believe it hits all major markets in the top 100 cities, so it would be difficult to not show in FL (or MI) cities.

Have you not seen an HRC or Edwards ad? I heard she was doing a lot of campaigning down there as well.

Florida is one of the most etnically diverse states in the nation...It has roughly the same percentages of Hispanics, African Americans, Jews, and caucasians as the United States...

It's about fairness and a level playing field.

It's one thing for the candidates to fight for votes.

It's another when ONE candidate wants to basically steals the votes and delegates from a couple of states.

Lovely double standard.

Go on with your Clinton hating and keep your head in the sand. I understand.

Team Hillary KNOWS that they are in BIG trouble.

A way to control the election. Depending on how they turned out, she could jump on one side or the other without penalty. I mean where did these states get the idea that they could forgo the rules of the Party and set their dates at will.

The bottom line is the WE CANNOT AFFORD A NATIONAL PRIMARY. It would favor rich and/or well financed candidates and is not a viable option. But then that would be describing Hillary wouldn't it?

plain, pure, and simple. The other candidates did not campaign in those states. It will have bee that the fix was in for HRC from the beginning. If they do that, they are going to get a lot of Dems who will NOT vote for her in the GE. They will lose the battle and win the war but typical for the Clintons--if they can't have it, they don't want anyone else to have it either (i.e., the White House).

The Clinton's are dirty politicians. This won't sit well with the party

<snip> the UFO faction is backing Hillary Clinton's presidential run, according to revealing new evidence and the Clinton election machine would prefer not to talk about it!

That should be obvious.

The question right now is just how badly do Hillary's people think she is doing?

What are their internals telling them about Super Tuesday?

The average voter doesn't give a damn about the Democratic infighting that cost Michigan voters a say in this election, they just care that their voices were silenced by internal Democratic bullshit. It won't matter who the candidate is in November - it will cost whoever it is the election. Go ahead and enjoy the "game" - it's over here, and Democrats lost. The average voter here doesn't blame Hillary - the ARE pissed at Obama, and those who took their names off the ballot. Enjoy your "victory".

if they weren't afraid they would be the edge Hillary needed to win. No Democratic candidate for President wants to start out their nominating convention with a big controversy over denying seats to delegates from two swing states that the nominee will need in November. And there WILL be a controversy because delegates from MI and FL will show up and they will ask the rest of the delegates to seat them.

If they get thrown out of the convention instead, there will be a whole lot of very pissed well connected political activists who will have travelled to the Dem Convention for nothing other than a kick in the ass. That is exactly what would happen. Everyone knows that. And pissed off people do not pull out all the stops and work day and night to get the Democratic nominee elected. At least not immediately. They will have to get over being pissed first, and that could cost us the election.

The way to punish MI and FL without shooting ourselves in the foot was always the "No Campaign Pledge" which our candidates signed and Hillary at least fully honored.