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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:34 PM
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Serious question: How will Obama overcome the attack "He has one year experience in the senate"
before he started running for president"?

Imagine McCain asking people whether the country should elect someone who has "one year of experience in the Senate" before he started running.

"Can we afford to take that risk in these times?"

Obama is a disaster waiting to happen for Democrats if he got nominated.
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katmondoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:37 PM
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1. So, people prefer endless wars
I didn't know that.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:38 PM
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2. Dwight D. Eisenhower got elected with exactly no experience as an elected official.
Rumsfeld and Cheney, just to name a couple, have had years and years of experience in government, and they suck.

That's how you answer that question.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:45 PM
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17. Lordy, Ike had just won WW2, and been Prez of Columbia U.
Just to overcome the fear of a military presidency they gave him a university to run.

There's no comparison.

I'm afraid when the swoon factor pales that we will lose in November, after McCain calls him "young man."

I'd rather have someone more seasoned and less charismatic.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:21 PM
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29. lol. An Ike Obama comparison are they kidding
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:29 PM
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54. lol I heard the Lincoln and JFK ones often but now they are adding Ike to the list too?
The Audacity of Hype.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:38 PM
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3. Many years less at creating war, killing, torure, and general global mayhem than you do
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:38 PM
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4. I still think thats the big elephant in the room

What if a major terrorist attack or threat happens sometime this year near the GE or something massive like economic collapse.

I'm telling you now, they will run to the safest hands by a mile and it won't be Obama if McCain is on the Rep side.

Thats a major worry and a big reason i canot side with a 1 term junior senator.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:22 PM
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30. That meme is going to end Obama's chances. Hope Democrats do the right thing
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:28 PM
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39. Why hasn't it worked for Clinton?
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:39 PM
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5. Serious Answer: He has three years in the US Senate
and eight years in the Illinois Senate.

Why are you spreading misinformation with your thread titles?
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:22 PM
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31. One year in the senate before starting his run.
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:29 PM
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41. Two years.
Elected in 2004. Served in 2005 and 2006. Started presidential campaign in February 2007.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:22 PM
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51. No, Two.
Why can't you get your facts straight before you publish them?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:39 PM
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6. The same way any smart politician would...
point to other qualities.

If you have experience, and the other guy doesn't, you pound on your experience. If you have other qualities that the other guy doesn't have, you pound on them. It's basic, really.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:39 PM
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7. I think Barack will be lucky if he gets that far.
I keep hearing more and more about Rezko. I think his dealings with Rezko over the last 17 years will create huge problems for Barack.

If he makes it past Rezko, the GOP spin machine will make short work of smashing him, and we'll be posting about where we went wrong, and how awful that war President McCain is going to be for the next 4 long years.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:44 PM
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13. wishful thinking
If he makes it to the nom and the Clintons don't smash him he'll do just fine. And he's very strong against McCain on many different levels.
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magatte Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:09 PM
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25. What in the Rezko affair?.... there is absolutely no Rezko affair.
He received donations from a big Democratic donor for years JUST like any other Democrat elected official. His law firm had him work 5 hours for a development deal on behalf of a client of Rezmar. And finally Rezko owned an empty plot near Obama`s house and subsequently Obama bought a small piece of it to increase his backyard. Where is the scandal?

read the summary from the Chicago Sun-Times:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article

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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:39 PM
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8. If the fruits of "experienced" lawmakers and presidents
...are the gridlock, ineffectual lawmakers, bootlicking of their special interest overlords, and problems remaining unsolved...then this bogeyman of "experience" is DOA.

Duke
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:39 PM
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9. ok, even though I said negative recc'd would be a bad idea in general
perhaps there are some posters that would be an exception.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:41 PM
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10. Change is what change is
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:45 PM
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15. AMEN!
:applause:
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:46 PM
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18. Here, Here! seriously.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:41 PM
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12. How would McCain counter the charge he's been in the Senate
since the beginning of time and the country has never been more fucked up than it is now? Can we afford to take the risk of more of McCain in these times?
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:23 PM
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33. he won't need to, voters like experience
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:44 PM
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14. You just posted a out right lie.
Get it ? ...

You lied ....again.

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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:24 PM
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34. no I didn't nt
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:45 PM
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16. With what our MI representatives did to us in MI
It would seem that the less experience a candidate has in the Senate the more advantage over the others he has to the voters, IMHO
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:46 PM
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19. The truth will work:
Education:

BA in political science (with a specialization in international relations) from Columbia University.

JD Graduate of Harvard Law School (Juris Doctor degree, magna cum laude).

President of the Harvard Law Review (the first ever African American).


Experience:

Civil rights attorney (turned down a prestigious judicial clerkship1)

Constitutional law professor.

First Black editor of The Harvard Law Review.

Community organizer.

State Senator.

Chairman of the Illinois State Senate Health and Human Services Committee.

US Senator.

Member of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Environment and Public Works Committee, and Veterans ’ Affairs Committee.

Author.

Husband and father of two daughters.

Board member of the Joyce Foundation, the Woods Fund of Chicago, and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.


Honors:

Grammy award winner (Spoken Word category).

Honored by the National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences (for narration of one of his books).

Honorary doctor of laws degree from the University of Massachusetts Boston (for among other things, "advancing and protecting the interests of the less fortunate"2)


Seems rather experienced to me...


References:

1. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1682433/bio

2. http://www.umb.edu/news/2006news/releases/may/060526_ob...


http://www.barackobama.com /
http://hopefundamerica.com /
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:53 PM
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22. Excellent credentials for a young man who speaks well. It's not enough.
I think he's terrific, just not yet.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:49 PM
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20. One year experience in the Senate = Washington Outsider
People like that in elections with recession and war.

Serious question back:

Everything McCain has ever said in the Senate is public record. Every fundraiser he has attended has resulted in photos taken with Enron officials, organied crime members, etc. How will he overcome that?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:50 PM
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21. By answering that "experience" results in things like the Keating5
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 05:50 PM by DJ13
That ought to shut the little bastard up.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:55 PM
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23. Bush had the most experienced cabinet in this history of this country.
Look how far their experience took us.
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:32 PM
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42. Good point.
* had all that experience too. He had all that experience of failing at everything he did, and boy that really worked out great!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:11 PM
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26. He seems to be doing a damn good job of overcoming it against Clinton.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:13 PM
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27. I think he'll do a few things:
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 06:14 PM by Onlooker
(1) He will choose a VP with experience
(2) He will compare his resume with Lincoln's (and probably a few other presidents)
(3) He will emphasize that a leader is someone who brings in talent, and will probably start naming the people who will be in his cabinet during the general election campaign.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:20 PM
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28. If that's the worst the repukes come up with we'll be in
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 06:21 PM by LibDemAlways
good shape in the event of an Obama nom. I fear, however, that "not enough experience" will be only the tip of the trashing, thrashing, and pummeling he'll be subjected to. The Kerry swiftboaters will look like a bunch of Sunday school teachers in comparison to what the r's will have in store for Obama.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:23 PM
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32. He'll call his good friend TED KENNEDY if necessary, and he's got senate experience out the wazoo!
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Tulkas Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:24 PM
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35. With People Like Ted Kennedy Saying He Is Ready To Be President
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:24 PM
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36. what, so the last 2.5 years don't count just cuz he was campaigning?
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:27 PM
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38. Thank God he has just 1 year experience in the Senate.
I think that'll do fine.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:29 PM
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40. He seems to be doing pretty well with Hillary CONSTANTLY bring it up.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:33 PM
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43. Abraham Lincoln
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:44 PM
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45. I don't think running on "I'm the next Lincoln" will fly in America.
Only among some Democrats. You have to keep in mind that Democrats have to get through a general election to get to the White House. They tend to forget that.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:13 PM
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50. or the next JFK
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:41 PM
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44. The question is, who can convince the American voter they are right?
This is where Barack will have trouble. McCain's explanation of what should be done will be coming from a man who served long and honorably in Viet Nam and was a prisoner of war. He also has years of experience including strong foreign policy credentials. Obama's explanation of what should be done will be coming from an earnest, well-meaning guy who has not even a little foreign policy experience. Zilch. Democrats tend to be too self-centered in their thinking as they choose a candidate in their primaries. They think that if enough of them like a candidate, then of course the rest of the country will. This is rather shocking considering who the American people elected in the last two presidential elections.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:45 PM
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46. Senators don't usually get elected anyway. It won't make a difference.
If Obama continues with his message of change and unity, he'll destroy McCain.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:56 PM
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47. SEE ALL THESE NEGATIVE THREADS? Making a point is all. -nt
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 07:29 PM
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48. KICK
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 07:29 PM
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49. I'll raise you one ;) n/t
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:23 PM
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52. He hasn't been corrupted. nt
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:15 PM
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53. Because we haven't discussed this before...
:kick:
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:41 PM
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55. How did Bill Clinton respond about his lack of experience when he was running in 1992?
He was the Governor of Arkansas at the time. Never served in Congress.

Here's a video that includes Clinton's responses then to those who criticized his lack of experience. It appears that Clinton's response when he was debating GHWB also included the words "I represent real hope for change." Clinton should sue Obama for copyright infringement. (Kidding.) http://youtube.com/watch?v=FUm7tkgFGYs
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:44 PM
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56. If experience mattered so much...
we'd have a 3-way race between Biden, Richardson & Dodd right now.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:37 PM
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57. For matcom... n/t
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