How long will Obama play the victim card?

Right now he is playing along with the media frenzy, which he knows is much to-do about nothing, to gain sympathy.

His camp continually goes after Hillary, but then he cries, 'Boo Hoo!" and winces at even the slightest criticism.

For all of Hillary's faults, she has proven for 15 years that she can take one on the chin without crying about it. Obama is proving that he has a glass jaw.

He is definitely not wearing the pants in this race.

I fear that the republicans will eat him alive if he makes it to the general, given his reaction thus far to standard critique, because the republicans would go after him like rabid piranhas as would the media.

:loveya: Thanks! And I agree!!

and that he would win. All of the dem candidates are very strong, and the GOP candidates are basket cases. It just seems to me that pity is replacing the issues in his campaign.

Oh, and same to you sister!

playing the 'victim' card. I think Obama wants to rise above the race stuff. And do you honestly think all those people voted for him yesterday out of pity? I don't.
And same to you! :hi:

a couple of times or more, it is clear that HRC has been trying to corner Obama into a no-win situation, by subtle innuendo and clever double negatives.

It's clear to me that John Kerry, who had to learn this stuff the hard way, from outside his party, was sickened by the games (I am still in awe of his endorsement speech--the passion, the knowledge, the morality, the call...(www.johnkerry.com). The fact that Ted Kennedy is coming out to endorse Obama is telling, too. The message is enough of the attack games already, especially within party circles. It's time to get back to business.

It is standard stuff of primaries. Obama engages in the same thing but always gets a pass, because he is seen as a 'victim,' and he knows it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080118/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_obama_radio;_ylt=Ag.sFGzDBC_wCAuQEiDk4rlp24cA">Obama says Hillary's Washington experience is 'why people mistrust our politics.'

Obama suggests Hillary was not truthful and was 'willing to say anything to get elected.'

Obama campaign says Hillary believes 'this is a race for who would make the best chief of staff.'

Obama claims Hillary is distracted by 'political points-scoring.'

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His, 'attacks' go on and on and on, but you never ever hear him criticized for them because there is a huge double standard, Obama knows this and takes full advantage of it. If Hillary said anything similar to any of the above statements, she would have been savaged for it, and Obama 'supporters' would have gone bezerk with rage.

get out of the kitchen

sequence was interesting. :eyes:

Now do you see why we think the Clintons are bad for our party?

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:thumbsup:

When you have a good scoring play, you keep at it til the defense stops it.

was Hillary before the NH primaries. Perhaps she shoulda got all misty eyed before SC too.

God forbid a politician show raw emotion about wanting to make a positive difference for the country.

and speaking with emotion in her voice.

There are no tears, no sobbing - no crying.

She wants to portray herself as being a strong woman, then she gets emotional on nationawide television. We all know that if Hillary is nominated, she'll face far more criticism from the Republicans. What will she do then? They won't care if she has an "emotional moment". They'll crucify her for it.

It says Edwards, but you talk like a Hillary supporter.

who says it like it is.

:eyes:

about everything, including the media and trying to use sexism to portray Hillary as a victim. All this is doing is making her look desperate and pathetic when her campaign is called out on its repeated distortions. It's not working, and it's turning people off.




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...waiting...

And what's worse, you have no proof that he is.

I'm sorry, but it's OBVIOUS that Obama is playing the victim card. Plain as the nose on your face. He's also playing the holier-than-thou card, the I'm-a-transformative-saint card, the I-don't-do-politics-the-way-you bullies-do card, the how-dare-you-attack-the-first serious-african-american-candidate card. He's playing so many card tricks my head is spinning. When this all started, I actually liked the guy. Now I have to admit I can't really stomach his sanctimonious, I'm going to transform all of American politics by the sheer power of my words and personality bs. American politics isn't going to be transformed on somebody's say so. It isn't about a messiah coming to show us all the light. It's about a street fight between progressive forces and forces of reaction. Always has been, always will be. People are confusing the general population's exhaustion with Bush -- which even many Republican share -- with the thought that some largely empty rhetoric of "change" is going to end the last, oh I don't know, 40 or so years of left-right struggle in this country.

Certainly I don't see how a guy who basically waltzed into the Senate against a carpet-bagging Alan Keyes, and has served what all of three years, has the bona fides to lead a transformation of the whole dynamic of American politics for the last 40 years. Strikes me as barely more than adolescent delusion to believe that.

I'm listening.

That's like asking somebody in broad daylight, with the sun shining high in the sky, to prove that the sun is really shining. Just open your eyes and look.

your read the articles at the link, specifically this one.

Hillary supporters may want to keep blinders on, but her campaign is bleeding.

because it's hillarious (sic)!

How much critique has Obama 'withstood'?

None, so far as I can tell.

Seems to me that ugly jeering is what I remember from Bush's last two elections. Distortion, outright lies, gloating, endless attack when there was nothing to attack...and then accusing the opponent of doing it.

I've seen this before. Maybe you've been fooled. Or maybe you think anything goes is a fair tactic. But I'm not fooled. I'm disgusted.

"For all of Hillary's faults, she has proven for 15 years that she can take one on the chin without crying about it. Obama is proving that he has a glass jaw. "

HAHAA...didn't Hillary in fact cry at a speech just a week or two ago?

Her voice got a little emotional a tiny bit choked up answering questions from some women at a diner.

So yes if it is one thing she has proven is that she is tough enough to stand up to the relentless garbage thrown at her from both sides.

Just who the hell does he think he is?

it out all the time.

Anything to win has been 'your girl's' disgusting campaign motto from the beginning.

:eyes:

:shrug:

Of the primary season many months ago.

Fucking pathetic and desperate OP.

The accusations always get debunked...but the anti-Clinton people ignore the debunkings and go on repeating their lies. Very inspiring.

another candidate is going to backfire.

you wouldn't be able to justify to yourself supporting a platform based on PROFIT trumps HEALTH CARE, PROFIT trumps domestic JOBS and POWER trumps Peace.

You never actually offer a debunking or any reasoning at all. You just tell people it's been debunked and move on. Rinse, repeat.

But sure, you go ahead and twist that into "crying"

:eyes:

She played the weak, "people are picking on me" woman. I lost respect for her then and there.

She did not complain, she did not whine. her fucking voice became a little wobbly.

Sigh.........I swear some days it's like walking in freeperville here. Not that you are one, just that why go there to hear the latest RW talking points when we can find them all RIGHT HERE. About Hillary, About Obama, About Edwards. People here are far to willing and quick to jump on whatever negative meme they put out against THEIR candidates opponents.

It is sickening and those doing it should be ashamed. Truly ashamed.

I've seen it aimed at Obama supporters by Hillary supporter on DU many times.

Obama falls apart at the slightest critique

"then he cries, 'Boo Hoo!" and winces at even the slightest criticism"

Are you talking about Senator Barack Obama ?? :eyes:

You would have to provide some links to back up your allegations.

From what I've seen, Obama has been defending himself calmly and clearly.

He has behaved in a most Presidential manner throughout the campaign.

America is dead. She has died. It is over. Finito.

which is probably going to be a long time, as gullible as they are.

with all the "victimization" talk? Obama has never played the victim card...and your "he is definitely not wearing the pants" is sooooo sexist. Over the last few weeks I feel my jaw dropping daily at what hillary supporter will say. This is exactly how the "right" has portrayed ANY frustration we have had with the status quo...as in "oh stop whining". Please... How about asking YOUR candidates husband to STFU with his innuendo that btw....WE GET.

He doesnt even bother talking about issues anymore

It is his MO

Whine whine whine, not ready for prime time.

Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject NYT: "Jackson Not Upset By Clinton Remark"
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4246416#4246416
4246416, NYT: "Jackson Not Upset By Clinton Remark"
Posted by bidenista on Mon Jan-28-08 11:03 AM

January 28, 2008, 9:50 am
Jackson: Not Upset by Clinton Remarks
By Katharine Q. Seelye

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The Rev. Jesse Jackson said late Sunday that he was not offended by comments on Saturday by former President Bill Clinton, who brought up Mr. Jackson’s name in response to a question about Senator Barack Obama.

Mr. Clinton had noted that Mr. Jackson had won South Carolina in the Democratic contests in 1984 and 1988. Pundits and many in the blogosphere interpreted Mr. Clinton’s mention of Mr. Jackson as an attempt to diminish Mr. Obama — and what would turn out to be his landslide victory Saturday in South Carolina over Senator Hillary Clinton — because Mr. Jackson had not gone on to win the Democratic nomination.

But Mr. Jackson said he did not see it that way.

“I don’t read anything negative into Clinton’s observation,” Mr. Jackson said in a phone conversation late Sunday night from India, where he is taking part in a commemoration of the 60th anniversary of the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/28/jackson-not-upset-by-clinton-remarks/index.html?ex=1359262800&en=de25afa9188d7cde&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

a real victim in this - nobody will pay attention