Everyone Bitches about How the Youth Vote never Turns Out...

But this election, they have, including myself and others, but because many of us support Obama, we have been shitted on being called everything from ignorant, to only interested in fads, to no longer being able to exercise critical thought. It's really offensive to have us all painted with this broad brush, that because we are young we dont know what we are talking about. You know, I think this is all a bunch of horse shit.

Whether some of the old farts on here want to admit it or not... We need you, you're the future. I'm sure they'll get over it soon enough. Eventually they'll cough up the sour grapes they're choking on right now.

That is the question to which the answer is very important.

People of all ages voter or don't vote, based on their own interests. Who are we to tell them that if they are engaged in the primary process, they must vote for someone other than their first choice in the general?

It's really up to each voter as to their level of participation.

I'm happy to see that they are turning out and ignoring the pundits who decry the younger voters as unreliable.

Truth is republicans and Clintons it seems would want to suppress the young vote as it benefits them.

and from what I have seen, mostly coming from the aging, disgruntled and vindictive Hillary crowd who goes along with her sense of political entitlement.

Pay them no never mind. YOU are changing history. Their time is basically done, and they are not happy about it.

Sounds a lot like Sour grapes.

McGovern, the anti-war, candidate to the top of the party, and he was trounced by Nixon. Oh, those were some great times... So, that's what they are thinking about when the GE comes roaring it ugly head.. the fact is, a lot of people do not vote in the primaries.. they wait it out and let the dust settle... and see who's left... Like I said, living in Florida most days is a doozy.. but its already a McCain state.. so, count all those electoral college votes as a given if obama or clinton take the the GE after the convention. I'm not even sure Edwards could pull it away from Poppa McCain.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op0OkiAmmpg
From Carey's Glitter

that I have supported youth. I have done it because of the hard work I have seen put in by my twenty-something children and their friends. My youngest in particular worked very hard in 2004.

I remember being laughed at plenty of times for sticking up for you guys. I even asked one poster to prove it, and he did provide a link. In spite of that, I commend those of you who work hard and turn out.

There are those of us who have been working for a long time. We started out in the sixties, and people are still sneering at our generation. I hope you are not one of those who sneers at or dismisses boomers. We get the same broad-brush treatment, and it is just as tiresome. It's time for us to be just Democrats and compliment each others' strengths.

the person they want us to support. :)

and Obama says he's sick of it too.
We grew up with the bitter fights of Clinton's impeachment and the ugly politics of Bush. There has to be a better way to run a campaign and lead the country.

And now you want to vote for the guy who, more than any other, thinks he can work with, even admire, Republicans? Does Obama think if he just tries to be as diplomatic as possible with the right wing that they will suddenly STOP being corrupt, hateful, assholes?

Sorry. Does...Not...Compute.

It can't all be blamed on Republicans.

If Obama continues to reach out a hand to the Republicans and give them a chance to work together, while they continue to act like bitter partisan jerks, who do you think the public is going to side with? Its not that difficult to figure out. A lot of people in the middle are sick of the bitter fights too. Its a winning message.

Yes, it all CAN be blamed on Republicans. You either weren't there, or weren't aware. I was.

Furthermore, the public will side with whomever the media tells them is right. Don't you get that yet? And who do you think the corporate owned media will support? This groundswell of support Obama is getting is impressive, but it will dissipate quickly once the election campaign is over, win or lose. Once it does Barack will have to face a pit of vipers, make no mistake about that, and for some reason he thinks he can NEGOTIATE with them.

There have been two times in my life where I felt a presidential election was almost certain to go to the Democrat, because the Repubs had screwed it up so bad there could be no other outcome. Once was in 1976, when Carter won. The other is now. I fear Obama could not just be a bad president, but could in fact lose the election, through trying to treat these guys as misguided bunny rabbits, instead of the vicious piranha they actually are.

for the dem. party because they need this.

People who disagree with you will find any angle they can to attack you. It's all just bullshit. The best thing you can do is hold your head up and keep out of the mud.


(Kind of like Obama is doing :) )

The same thing happened to Bill Clinton when he was president. The opposition saw his potential to be a hugely popular president, so they attacked him relentlessly for 9 straight years with everything they could come up with. This is exactly what is going to happen again when another Democrat is elected President. Fortunately, I believe more and more people are beginning to see these attacks for what they really are.

Kerry's service, Bush and Clinton's lack of service, Reagan and Poppy's plan to make us "strong" again, Carter's plan to heal our wounds. Nixon. McGovern. Humphrey. LBJ.

Before I get flamed, I am not trying to minimize the achievements of that era or get into any kind of inter-generational conflict. It's just that our leaders keep replaying the same cultural battles over and over and over. As a country, we've been fixated on this one traumatic period for the last 40 years, and we can't get past it.

I think it's hard for a lot of young people to become engaged in these food fights, so they just sit them out. Most people under 30 have accepted the basic premises of civil rights, womens' rights, gay rights, challenging authority. Young people have benefited from those battles, and I think feel like it's time to fight some new battles.

Speaking as an old codger, you make some good points here and I agree with you.

I'm in my 30s, so I'm kind of stuck in the middle on this one.
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they shouldn't be calling anyone else ignorant, stupid, lacking in critical thinking etc.

but that one really stands out.

btw, in 2004, under 30 was the only age group that went to Kerry. the rest went for Bush. that should tell a lot about what people know and what their concerns are.

Even in local primary elections...like for mayor or city council.

I'm glad that you and my daughter are involved!

I'm very proud and my heart swells just at the thought that young people are getting involved in their future.

Way to go!

Don't let these Folks here deter you. That's what they want to do.

That's how hard up they are for their candidate.

Don't let anything said on DU discourage you.

and you wonder why people don't take you seriously?

I really hope you lost 10 other Obama voters with your little hoax.

I'm sure you will.

Quite an immature reaction, btw. ;)

Even though the numbers for the white vote for Obama were high, most of the pundits acknowledge that the vote for the non-white vote for Obama was high, too.

I guess that's because he appealed to a lot of people, no matter what color they was.
Ain't that something?!!

Something special is coming our way - young people can sense it.

We are going towards a future without a Bush or a Clinton in the White House and it will be the 1st time in 28 years!!!!!!!

That's special enough for me to get excited about.

So get used to it.

They don't move me the way kids did in the 60's. Sorry the kids were smarter then. They were more personally involved in the issues and committed, and spoke more intelligently.

Instead these kids are stirred by the cult of Obama.

what he or she just wrote is bullshit.

(i.e. he just turned into his parent "Kids these days, my lawd a mercy, dancing to that rock music and protesting the war and doin drugs... they just got no sense! We have got to stay and win this war or we will look weak to the Soviets! what will those kids be thinkin next, that Bobby is goin to be President! No siree!)


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People of my generation (baby boomers) were the first "me" generation (so the pundits tell us), and I think it's hard for us to give up power and let the next generation lead. Giving up power means that it isn't our world anymore, and it's retirement and getting old. 50 is the new 40, and 60 is the new 50 is what we tell ourselves. But it really isn't true. We've had the reins of power for 15 years now, it's time to let someone else have a turn.

And before anyone jumps in and says "But Barack is 46"... yes he is, but when the next generation looks to a leader, it is almost always an older member of the generation.

I think we can read people better, and imo we find Obama much more genuine than other politicians. Yes, there are some young people who are voting for him because he's cute or whatever (which he is) but some of us actually care about the issues and believe that Obama best represents us and our future. He automatically represents the future imo because he's bi-racial and pretty soon the United States will be bi-racial in some way or another...

btw I did not label you.

Where has your generation been about this war? I am very disappointed in Generation X todate.
I am sorry but most of your generation is self-absorbed and self-centered, and have no idea of any of the issues - much less involve themselves.

Perhaps you yourself care and care deeply, but most of your contemporaries don't.

the baby boomer politicians created. My Generation has been busy creating and buying new technology that has helped our economy even though its still struggling. My generation has been busy in school getting their degrees and working 2-3 jobs to pay for their education which our status quo politicians in government has forced them to do. My generation is not self absorbed or self centered. Tell that to college students who are out there campaigning by walking door to door to inform people about this election.



Perhaps you yourself care and care deeply, but most of your contemporaries don't.

We do know about the issues and most of my contemporaries have been bored with what the old status quo politicians have given us in the pass. Again we aren't like some baby boomers, we don't just vote for anything (*rme* Iraq anyone?). We've kept quite long enough and now we are tired of it. What the baby boomer politicians have done is set in motion high loan payments for college students, extreme rise in the cost of living making it hard for most young people to even afford an apartment much less buy their own home, and the fact that my generation might not have any type of social security which should have been an issue that was taken care of when the baby boomers first took over the government.

My generation cares we just haven't had someone who gets us or cares about OUR future.

I'm Gen Y. Whatever that means.lol

We're not all the same. We don't all like Obama because he's cute or because he's biracial and that's "cool" or "American Idol" whatever people say we like him for. We're not all airheads who care about nothing but Britney Spears and America's Next Top Model, though, yes, I do follow those things. I'm in my 20s and yes, maybe I like reading Cosmo Girl and I can also enjoy Ulysses. People should not stereotype young people in such a small box. I don't post that most of Hillary's supporters are all old, pastey, wrinkled housewives who feel the only way to have their voice heard is through her, or old retirement home people who need to be wheeled in to the voting booth, but if I were to say that, many would be upset. Because it's not all true.

And yes, it's a bunch of "happy horseshit." ;)