So has Bill Clinton been a co-Senator for 7 years?

No. He's taken no active role whatsoever in Hillary's senate job. He's kept himself very busy with his own work.

The notion that he'd outshine Hillary when she's President just isn't based in fact or history - it's based on the old freeper meme that Hillary was co-President. It's just being recycled and twisted around now.

Stop doing the right-wing's work for them.

like he's doing now. Let go of the hate Frenchie - it's destroying you.

:sarcasm:

Too bad.

I didn't need my man to get my job.

Thank God!

Do you really think you would have gotten your job if they'd known you were married? You might've gotten pregnant or something! Horrors!

:sarcasm:

For the first job I had out of college, they asked me if I was planning to have a family any time soon.

It's completely unfair.

needs Michele to tell the
"black voters that they will
'get it'...and vote for Obama.."

He needs his wife to play the
race card because he isn't black
enough?!?

That makes as much sense as your
continual hack job against Bill
campiagning for Hillary.

Exactly! And a lot of us married women, although we support and are very proud of our husband's achievements, we also have been PERSONALLY INDEPENDENT ... carved out our own identities - careers completely separate to that of our husbands.

HRC is, IMO, the anti-feminist. That is, she clings onto and has assimilated her husband's political power base. Her struggle is significant as a woman ... but as a political candidate and potential leader, she USED her husband for a nepotist "step-up" which I find disquieting and NOT of "her own" achievement independent of "her man." ::thumbsdown:

but part of the problem has been of their own doing, by allowing Bill to take such a big and divisive role in the campaign. For her own good, it's better if he plays a more traditional role as spouse- not as the face of the campaign. And that is more difficult for him, but it's not impossible. Up until NH, he did it very well.

Does that give him 42 years of experience?

That was ALL Hillary. Great judgment there, yesirree.

why derail the thread with your bullshit?

Oh man.

Oh man.

She can't have it both ways.

Either she has eight years of policy making role in the executive branch at the highest levels... or she only has the experience of a 7 year serving junior senator from New York.

Now you are telling me that the idea that she served any role as "co-president" is simply a right wing meme... and you might be right, but her campaign speeches certainly leave one with the impression that is not how she views her role in her husband's administration.

Tell me what other public office has Hillery been elected to before being elected Senator from New York?

why would you put words in my mouth?

I'm saying that Bill did not in any way outshine Hillary in the time she's been Senator, and he won't try to do it when she's President.

What is the "experience" that Hillary alludes to in almost every campaign speech?

What other elected office has she held?

Simple questions.

Either she has the "experience" by being First Lady of Arkansas and later First Lady of the US, and that should count for something OR she has only the experience of her time in the Senate.

And if you count her years of "First Ladyship" as something to put on a resume and which makes her more qualified to be President, then you have to accept that she had a much larger role than that of picking which China to use at the State Dinners or what children's social program was her cause.

I'm not your monkey.

And you sig line says different. You ARE my monkey.

Dance monkey!

And it isn't off topic. The topic is one of Bill's role, both in her Presidency, should she be elected, and in her Senate service. I agree with you that Bill hasn't played much of a role at all in her Senate service. But you brought up the "right wing meme" of her playing the role of co-president.

And I asked a reasonable question, if the meme is WRONG (which I'm prepared to believe it to be wrong), then what is the "experience" that she keeps talking about in her campaign? Because she says she has 35 years of experience. And I want to know what that experience entails.

Other than her failed health care reform in the first year of the Clinton Presidency, and her firing of people in the White House travel office, I don't really know of anything else that she had direct connection with as far as US policy or White House policy.

I can. But I won't because it's off-topic, and you're being an antagonistic flopstick.

thing.

That was my only question, and it's right there in your OP. So this isn't "off topic" because you brought it up.

You assert that it's a "right wing meme". But your assertion begs a number of questions.

And I'm asking a question... if that's being "antagonistic flopstick" (whatever that is) well, fine.

It's still a question.

One that you choose not to answer.

You can learn and do a lot in the White Housewithout being in a policy making role!

and, if she did, then the right wing meme of her being co-president at least has some grain of truth.

I'm not discounting that she played a role in her husband's administration, all that I'm asking is that her supporters tell the truth.

Either she played a role in the Clinton administration and had input of some sort on policies, or she didn't.

And if she did play a role in the policy making, then the whole of the Clinton Presidency, both the good and the bad, can be laid at her feet as well as her husbands.

She can't claim experience as an observer. There are plenty of other people who attend meetings and take notes or photographs and such, who can claim THEY are qualified because they witnessed history. But that doesn't make them qualified.

You gotta be kidding, right?

They rhapsodize about the White House years as being "experience" but apparently out of the other side of their mouths they try to pretend she did not have influence....

It's like a two headed dragon...you never know which head will be talking.

And against all the bad ones in his 8 years. That's not the right wing's work. And his stumping has been noted on several occasions to overly rely on "I" or "we" rather then speaking about his wife. The fact that he's made so many low-class insinuations is just a bonus.