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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:22 AM
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Kennedy told Obama of endorsement *before* South Carolina primary
There were some suggestions that Teddy Kennedy chose to endorse Obama because of Bill Clinton's Saturday night comparison of Obama's campaign to Jesse Jackson's.

Not so, say people on both sides of the endorsement: Kennedy called Obama Thursday.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Not_about_the_Jackson_line.html


Also please note:

After Mr. Obama won the Iowa caucuses, associates to both men said, Mr. Kennedy concluded that Mr. Obama had transcended racial lines and the historical divisions the Kennedy family had worked to tear down. Mr. Kennedy was also impressed at how Mr. Obama was not defined as a black candidate, but seen as a transformational figure.

It was then, associates said, that Mr. Kennedy began talking with family members, including Caroline Kennedy, who had reached her own judgment some time ago independently of her uncle. They then agreed last week to move ahead with their endorsement, coordinating their decision before the Feb. 5 contests.

-snip

Conversations about the White House began more than a year ago, with Mr. Obama paying Mr. Kennedy a visit to seek his thoughts about whether he should run for president. Mr. Kennedy told him that he should because such opportunities rarely come along.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/28/us/28kennedy.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:25 AM
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1. Too bad they didn't wait till after Florida
As it stands, the Florida primary will make this a one or two day news story. Had they done this on Wednesday, it would have had legs for many days afterwards.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:33 AM
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4. That was a major error


I think it was to capitalise on SC, but they also forgot later today will be the SOTU, this story will die in hours when the MSM goes nuts over Chimps last SOTU and then Florida tomorrow, they picked such a stupid time for an endorsement.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:44 AM
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8. Not at all. The story dominated yesterday...
And so the media didn't have time to dissect the SC Primary. The story that dominated yesterday was 1. Huge Obama win in SC and 2. Kennedy endorsement of Obama. The media had very little time to obsess about the role that race might have played in the primary, which was certainly the story the Clintons were trying hard to spin with that Jackson comment.

So Kennedy now gets two days of intense media coverage and plenty of time to hop on a plane an campaign hard.

The timing was perfect.

Please, you don't think that Ted knows how to play this game?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:34 AM
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5. Well, since the Clinton's leaked the story, it was kind of hard.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:25 AM
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2. We're gettin' gamed
And don't think the knife won't cut both going in and coming out alike.

--p!
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:31 AM
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3. Its obvious Obama is now playing strategic endorsements here

I get the feeling Hillary has some stuff hidden up her sleeve for the right moment and think its coming soon.

the Kerry thing was so planned after his "expected" NH win and now this after his "expected" SC win. Seems they have been planning a knife attack all along really.

There's an orchestrated attempt here to bring down Hillary, they have showed their hand. Its do or die time, they know this is done and dusted after ST, this is the big gambit.

If Hillary wins the nomination, there will be payback somewhere down the line.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:58 AM
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10. I don't doubt there would be payback from the Clintons.
That's how they operate, and it is disgusting.

Time for a new kind of politics. The people want unity, not the same-old, same-old politics.

The Obama camp has the right to roll out its endorsements as they choose. You can't fault them for being politically astute and well-organized. It's not dirty or dishonest.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:38 AM
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6. Edwards seems to have.....
theworking class seems as his base. Go get the White House for us Mr. President Edwards.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:39 AM
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7. Now you're spoiling all the fun
for the Clinton-haters.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:53 AM
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9. Sure he did. *wink*...In reality, Kennedy wants to sink the Clintons.
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 11:03 AM by Kristi1696
Call me cynical, but I don't think that Ted Kennedy is the type of guy to make emotional moves rather than political ones.

I'm sure he really and truly likes Obama, but this was a political move, geared to either send a message to, or attempt to sink, the Clintons.

Here's some potential reasons:
1. He's truly pissed off at Bill for playing dirty and not listening to him when he told him to knock it off.
2. He perceives that the Clintons are in a power grab with their demand that Florida delegates be seated (and thumbing their noses at the DNC)
3. He feels that their win-at-any-cost antics are going to seriously screw downticket Dems in the General Election.

Personally, I think it's a combination of all three. But the end result is that Kennedy has decided it's time for the Clintons to go. This will be a political battle of epic proportions. So I encourage everyone enjoy some :popcorn:, and to join me in praying that this doesn't tear the party apart.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:13 AM
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11. Teddy may want the Clintons gone but he won't get his wish!!!
Even if Hillary were not to become president, she would still be a powerful NY senator and one of the most famous American women in the world.

Bill is idolized overseas and his foundation has only increased his stature in the world scenario since he left office. For all the trashing that Bill is getting lately, it's thanks to his foundation that thousands of people in Africa living with HIV and AIDS are still alive. The experts say that in the future it will be millions of people, not just thousands. Pls. read the January issue of GQ to get a better idea of what Bill has been doing the last few years.

Obama may be "transcendental", but IMO he doesn't hold a candle to the Clintons and the decades of service that they have dedicated to this country and humanity at large.

I like Teddy, but in this case, he can go and screw himself!!!
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:01 PM
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12. The overseas idolization has been fairly dimished
here in Norway with those i have spoken to, some of my friends from Europe has also commented on his decline being quite sad
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