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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 12:57 AM Original message |
A general queston: does anyone at DU support the notion of "superdelegates?" |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. Between superdelagates and the electoral college |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Your answer covered my opinion completely |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I really feel the same way. I don't understand how the EC has lasted so long. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
24. Because it's in the constitution |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. but we might see a good work-around some day |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Yeah, that's possible |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. Between the EC and non-proportional seats in the Senate |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 03:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. someone was explaining super delegates lately and basically |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
2. Don't you think it's time to dismiss the whole electoral college bs and have direct vote like |
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SlipperySlope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Think of it like this... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Bartlett: "There are times when we're fifty separate states and times where we're one big nation." |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
35. it's a good sentiment |
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SlipperySlope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Where in the Constitution does it say that? |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. it doesn't say that, of course |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. The European Union is a federation of COUNTRIES, not states |
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SlipperySlope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. This is NOT a country subdivided into states. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Oi vei. You sound like the Repuke federalists. nt |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 03:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. It's way past time, but it's also too late |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Then we're f*cked, pardon the French. One thing I don't get about this country is this..... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:34 AM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Yes, the constitution IS changeable |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
5. After selecting McGovern, something had to give. Sorry, but I remember n/t |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. What do you mean exactly? |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. McGovern took only one state and had only 37.5 percent of the popular vote. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Ok, I can't be knowledgable on *everything* hehe...... can you |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Another DUer was kind enough |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Ok, thanks. Well that totally sucks. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. McGovern won the nomination because most DEMS wanted him to win. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Ok turns out I wasn't as confused as I thought I was. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I guess you had to be there. McGovern was pure, but unelectable |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. totally misses the point. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 02:14 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. But we live in a representative democracy. n/t |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
6. Not sure |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Can you help me understand the Pros? |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. A certain amount of institutional memory |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. It should be given "weight?" The people ARE the party. |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Well, given a majority |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
16. Short answer, no. Long answer, see short answer. |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
23. Superdelegates came about as a hard fought fight between the union bosses, Wallace forces and the |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. And that 20% is where the Clintons |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
25. NO. They are inherently nonrepresentative and undemocratic. |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 02:09 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Actually, they ARE elected |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 04:04 AM Response to Original message |
30. It's quite non-democratic really.... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
33. "Some animals are more equal than others" - George Orwell |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
36. Beats The Old System... |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Do superdelegate types have more sway in the Democratic vs. the Republican party? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
37. I'm sure it would quite depend if they benefitted THEIR candidate or not |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
38. The "superdelegates" aren't supposed to declare until the convention |
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