FAVORABILITY RATINGS: Obama 50% favorable, 44% unfavorable (Clinton 51-47)

Proud2BAmurkin

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:02 PM
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FAVORABILITY RATINGS: Obama 50% favorable, 44% unfavorable (Clinton 51-47)

And that's after 95% favorable MSM Obama coverage. This isn't a good sign.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/favorables/election_2008_democratic_candidates_running_in_2008_presidential_election

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AX10

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:03 PM
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1. Any candidate is going to have 45% against them...

They best you can do is 55% in your favor.

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jackpan1260

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:03 PM
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2. I disagree, this isn't a bad sign for Hillary. eom

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:03 PM
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3. So Clinton having a lower net favorability than Obama is good for Clinton?

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Proud2BAmurkin

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:05 PM
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4. Obama is nearly tied in unfavorability and he hasn't been scrutinized. yet.

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:06 PM
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6. Any viable Dem is going to have 40-45% against, simply as the oppo party

coalesces against them.

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BearSquirrel2

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:21 PM
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28. He's been smeared ...

He's already been smeared with the "Osama" and "Madrassa" crap. The fact that he is weathering it well tells good things about him.

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emilyg

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:36 PM
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33. Wait till GOP starts...

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BearSquirrel2

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Mon Jan-28-08 10:20 PM
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39. Wait till the GOP stops pushing Hillary ...

Have no doubt about it. The GOP and MSM has been pushing Hillary for a VERY long time. They have made a big investment in her in terms of research. They are sitting on it right now and waiting for her to be the nominee.

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jlake

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Mon Jan-28-08 08:35 PM
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36. No. There have only been murmers of what will be a SCREAMING attack by the GOP

if he is the nominee.

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alcibiades_mystery

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:09 PM
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12. Clinton loses by 30% = Good for Clinton

Clinton higher unfavorable than Obama = Good for Clinton
Kennedy endorsement of Obama = Good for Clinton

Are you noticing a pattern yet?

:rofl:

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:11 PM
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14. I can't wait to see how he'll spin Obama capturing the nomination.

"So? John Kerry, Walter Mondale, and Mike Dukakis all won the nomination and lost. Expect Hillary to clean up."

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Proud2BAmurkin

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:14 PM
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19. fortunately I won't have to

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:15 PM
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20. You really think you'll get tombstoned before then?

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AX10

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:16 PM
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23. Obama supporters are so condecending and arrogant.

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:17 PM
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25. Maybe you could start a thread about it.

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alcibiades_mystery

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Tue Jan-29-08 10:09 AM
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40. I think 5 threads an hour about Obama supporter arrogance would be better

:rofl:

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sunonmars

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:05 PM
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5. So the more people heard of him, the more they dont like him, thats shot up hugely

Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 02:07 PM by sunonmars

His unfavourable has shot up massively in the last month.

In fact thats a huge frigging turnaround.

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:06 PM
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8. That's expected for politicians who become frontrunners.

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cali

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:07 PM
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9. you don't understand basic political realities, huh?

Would you like me to explain it to you?

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Tarc

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:23 PM
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29. The more the people hear about him, the less they like

Now that the luster is wearing off a bit and the voters get ahold of the actual substance of the campaign, they find there's not much there.

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:06 PM
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7. Hmmm

If I believed everything the main stream press told me I would think Hillary Clinton was worse than Hitler...

I'm actually impressed...

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alcibiades_mystery

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:07 PM
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10. It was a bad sign to win a state by 30%, according to your brilliant poltical mind

Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 02:08 PM by alcibiades_mystery

Forgive the rest of us if your proclamations seem a few Jacks short of a deck at this point.

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:08 PM
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11. And it was bad news when Ted Kennedy endorsed Obama. And Obama would only get

single digits with whites in SC.

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BearSquirrel2

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:24 PM
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30. They went to ...

Those voters went for Clinton and Edwards. So conversely you have to look at how poorly Clinton and Edwards did with black voters.

We all know that almost of these voters will flip to the Democratic nominee in a general election ... whomever it is.

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_Wayne_

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:10 PM
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13. Favorability ratings don't matter, the electoral college does.

And both Obama and Clinton have a great chance of winning the electoral college against a nameless Republican.

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sunonmars

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:12 PM
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15. Sorry but we were being battered that Clinton had a bad electibility

Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 02:12 PM by sunonmars

turns out Obama is in the same league. Its true they have attacked Clinton for saying she has high negatives, so what will they say now.

Jesus, the Pundiits at CNN and MSNBC have harped on about this for a month, i hope someone hits them with it.

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:13 PM
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17. Actually, those aren't the most important numbers. The vote for/against numbers are.

Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 02:14 PM by Occam Bandage

Obama:

29% For
36% Against

Clinton:

30% For
47% Against

Those are the people who have already made up their minds.

Clinton has to convince 21% to vote for her; if 4% vote against she loses.
Obama has to convince 22% to vote for him; if 15% vote against he loses.

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peaches2003

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:12 PM
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16. The big difference

is that Hillary's unfavorables are in cement and though her unfavorable #s may increase they will never decrease. She has way too much history behind her and those that hate her will hate her no matter what she does.

Obama may have the hardcore racists giving him unfavorables, but there are many more people who can be swayed into the favorable category if he is the nominee. He does not have the personal history to engender 'hate' (other than racists).

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sunonmars

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:17 PM
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24. who says unfavourables are in cement, thats bull.

Obama's figures were good and in the space of 3 weeks have gone from good to plain awful.

I think thats very telling of what people think of him. He's being looked at differently now. About time.

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peaches2003

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Mon Jan-28-08 03:10 PM
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34. Please

There are very very few people who didn't make up their minds about Hillary a very long time ago. Her #s hardly ever change. Not my opinion, but a fact.

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THUNDER HANDS

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:14 PM
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18. People like Clinton better

People Like Clinton Better Than Obama. There Is No Support For Obama in America.

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spooky3

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:16 PM
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21. EDWARDS has the best ratings

Favorable minus unfavorable are better for him than for HRC or BO

He beats McCain by the biggest margin.

Of course, it's Rasmussen, and not sure how much confidence to place in this poll.

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AX10

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:16 PM
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22. Amazing how the Obamites are know downplaying these numbers.

They were such a big deal when Clinton was presumed to be the frontrunner, now that Obama is doing better, they don't matter so much. :eyes:

The cult personality strikes again. :crazy:

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:18 PM
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26. Amazing how you start out downplaying them in this thread, until you realize

it's an anti-Obama, not an anti-Clinton thread.

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sunonmars

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:19 PM
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27. all thing said, thats a huge swing and not in a good way for him from a month ago

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Proud2BAmurkin

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:25 PM
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31. I was shocked but it makes sense since he's becoming known outside of reading speeches

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sunonmars

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Mon Jan-28-08 02:27 PM
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32. I'm telling you, that its the debates doing it, the SC debate, i think was a killer for him

Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 02:30 PM by sunonmars

If he pulls another shit performance on the 30th in California, its curtains for him.

Hillary knows this debate is important and this last one is.

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goodgd_yall

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Mon Jan-28-08 08:40 PM
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38. Our 3 candidates are all about equally loved and hated

I feel better now.

As you say, with more scrutiny the unfavorable ratings are bound to increase.

What was the sampling group---just Dems, all voters of all parties?

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Tatiana

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Mon Jan-28-08 08:34 PM
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35. Shocking!

:kick:

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goldcanyonaz

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Mon Jan-28-08 08:36 PM
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37. *snort*

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BenDavid

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Tue Jan-29-08 10:15 AM
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41. and after that lil incident with the handshake last night, obama's

favorable will drop and his unfavorable will rise......I agree with all the mediawhores saying such sweet and nice things about obama over the weekend it has got to be troubling....in some polling hrc has increased her lead in those 2/5 states....

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Zueda

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Tue Jan-29-08 10:21 AM
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42. I think the "voting for/against" found at your link is more telling...

Clinton: For 30% - Against 47%
Obama: For 29% - Against 36%

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