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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:23 AM
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As president, Obama has said he would meet with the U.S.'s enemies without precondition.
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 02:29 AM by 2rth2pwr


Yet, he won't meet Hillary half way.




Obama stood icily staring at Clinton during this, then turned his back and stepped a few feet away. Kennedy may've wanted to make peace with Clinton but Obama clearly wanted no part of that.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/by_frank_james_president_bush.html
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:43 AM
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1. Pretty kitty.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:34 AM
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6. very cute
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:52 AM
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2. Obama is a big talker.
But when day is done, he' just full of S**T.
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:54 AM
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3. How about you don't use propaganda? No one has seen anything but the picture
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 02:55 AM by Levgreee
except the one photographer(and perhaps other people at the event who noticed, but haven't spoken). Now, what is the source for this article writer, for this "Icy stare" that was given before he turned away.

There is no source, plain and simple. Pitiful.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:31 AM
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4. Frank James was there.The press gallery is above, looking down at Congress
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 04:22 AM by 2rth2pwr
"The sense in the press gallery was that Obama didn't cover himself in glory. Someone even used the word "childish." (Not this writer.) Judging by how much conversation there was about this brush off in the press gallery, Americans will be hearing a lot more about this tomorrow and in coming days.

The fact that much of the discussion in the press gallery after Bush's was about the snub is probably an indication of how we journalists and perhaps the nation are already moving past Bush, how the presidential campaign is increasingly crowding out anything Bush has to say ."


Edited to add that these 2 paragraphs are from the story linked above.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:55 AM
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9. Bush has been irrelevant for over 2 years now.
And if "you" journalists are focusing on some bullshit about a handshake, it only proves how irrelevant you are, and have always been.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:11 AM
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11. Handshakes have ended wars, enacted treatys, symbolically important
These are the stories that people feel safe talking about at work or out and about.



"You see b*sh fall of that scooter?, what a maroon"

"What's up with Pelosi's eyes? yea that's weird"

"did you hear about Rudy and how he got the cops to limo his girl all over the place? wtf is up with that?"

"Holy shit, I can't believe that shit! He shook the b*shes hand and then turned his back on her? no way" "Way"

"dude, it was funny as hell. He was standing there all friendly like and then when she came over he was like,'psyche!'"
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:19 AM
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12. Just further proof of what a "journalist" you are
Maybe you can get Britney or Lindsey on record as to what they think of Handshakegate! :eyes:

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:34 AM
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5. You haven't been paying attention....
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 03:34 AM by 1corona4u
here is another story, from another writer;



Sen. Barack Obama refused to make himself available to greet Sen. Hillary Clinton before the speech.

When members of the Senate entered the chamber, Obama came in before Clinton. He went out of his way to greet as many House members as possible and walked halfway across the chamber to greet members of the Supreme Court, the president's cabinet, the military joint chiefs.

That made what happened next even more striking. Obama returned to stand by his seat next to Sen. Edward Kennedy who endorsed Obama today in a widely watched event that reverberated across the political world.

As Clinton approached, Kennedy made sure to make eye contact and indicated he wanted to shake her hand. Clinton leaned towards Kennedy over a row of seats and Kennedy leaned in towards her. They shook hands.

Obama stood icily staring at Clinton during this, then turned his back and stepped a few feet away. Kennedy may've wanted to make peace with Clinton but Obama clearly wanted no part of that.

The sense in the press gallery was that Obama didn't cover himself in glory. Someone even used the word "childish." (Not this writer.) Judging by how much conversation there was about this brush off in the press gallery, Americans will be hearing a lot more about this tomorrow and in coming days.


http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008...

Oh, and this was NOT the photographer.

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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:44 AM
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7. really?
He REFUSED TO MAKE HIMSELF AVAILABLE?

That sounds like something a subject shouldn't do when the Queen walks in.

Refuses to make himself avaialable. What a telling statement.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:50 AM
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8. Ya know I wasn't going to get into this,
but when you put in that perspective you are right, Obama is being petty.

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:23 AM
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13. doesn't match his rhetoric, that's for sure. nt
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:58 AM
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10. I love that Kitty but I must say
Why should he do anything for her. Once the elections are over they can go back to being "friends". Right now President William Clinton is kicking the crap out of him and he doesn't trust either of them. I can't blame him.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:27 AM
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14. He wouldn't be doing anything "for her", it's just basic civility
What are parents going to tell their kids about this?

This is a highly symbolic event and to act like a bratty child by turning his back on her is not a good way to "bring people together".
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:32 AM
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15. Then what are your thoughts about Hillary doing the same thing to Obama?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:44 AM
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16. Let me see the pics or a video
then I can decide.

This was done in a fishbowl on live tv broadcast around the world. If he doesn't understand the symbolism involved, he has no business
doing diplomatic work anywhere in the world.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:48 AM
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18. Thats a cop-out answer
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 04:48 AM by Quixote1818
One article said Obama extended his hand and she passed him by. That sounds 1,000 times worse than Obama moving into a different position while Hillary and Teddy make meaningless small talk. And to be honest I could care less that she did that. Who the fuck cares about any of this tripe?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 06:43 AM
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20. He's running on a platform of unity, bringing people together,
moving beyond the petty politics of yesterday, looking forward to days filled with hope and rainbows, believing in the power of goodness and cotton candy, and days of endless sun and prosperity for all.

If he can't be bothered to show civility and basic manners at a time in our history that is crying out for healing and coming together in the effort to provide basic rights to the common man. If his reaction to the normal give and take of the election process is to show his frustration over some perceived slight, his soaring rhetoric may as well be looked at as putting pretty lipstick on a hopelessly ugly and crass pig.
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:48 AM
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19. Here's the video
Start at about 1:10. Edwards comes out, Dodds comes next, shakes hands with Edwards. Obama comes out, shakes hands with Dodd. Clinton comes out, turns her back away from Obama as soon as she gets close.

http://www.taudiobook.com/closed_caption/democratic_debate_nv.html
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:45 AM
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17. I don't think it's a big deal. We should just call these the primary wars
because it is a mini war fought with words.

Parents can tell their kids that the Clinton's kicked Obama to the curb and he didn't appreciate it and so he didn't pretend it was all OK. Then they can tell them that sometimes people disagree and it takes time to work through but that they hope in a year things will be better between all involved.

It's real life played out for all to see and not the end of the world.

Btw, my candidate has dropped out, my second choice is neither of these two.
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