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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:52 AM
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Hillary supports the surge? This I did not know.
From last night:

When Bush proclaimed, “Ladies and gentlemen, some may deny the surge is working, but among terrorists there is no doubt,” Clinton sprang to her feet in applause but Obama remained firmly seated. The president’s line divided most of the Democratic audience, with nearly half standing to applaud and the other half sitting in stony silence.


http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/clinton-obama-steal-bushs-final-show-2008-01-29.html
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:53 AM
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1. Except she doesn't
so try again.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:54 AM
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3. So, she applauds something she doesn't agree with?
That makes a lot of sense.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:57 AM
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4. What? Didn't You Get Your DLC to English...
... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4243073&mesg_id=4243073">decoder ring, which tells when nods are just nods, and when winks actually mean something?

Norman Hsu got his. Yours must've gotten lost in the mail. Call up Mark Penn and ask them to ship you another.

; )

- Dave
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:40 AM
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14. Hillary applauded the success of our brave troops - you have a problem with the troops?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:57 AM
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16. Wow. We're literally using freeper "omg support our troops!" arguments to defend Hillary.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:04 AM
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7. That is why I posed that snippet. I thought she was against the surge
but apparently, she is indicating that she agrees that it is a smashing success with her standing ovation of that comment.

Color me confused. Again.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:15 AM
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9. she applauded the troops
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:56 AM
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15. I didn't get that, but will take your word for it.
Apparently Obama didn't get it either.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:59 AM
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17. Obama doesn't get a lot of things
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:06 PM
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20. We don't have to color you, you were born like that. She supports the troops.
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crawfish Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:14 PM
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23. I used to wonder how people could delude themselves into becoming Republicans...
Posts like this make me realize it's not an isolated thing. :eyes:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:53 AM
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2. Hillary is more of the same
A Hillary presidency: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:59 AM
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5. She and Obama have identical voting records about the surge and all other matters related to Iraq
during the years during which both have served in the Senate. There is an actual public record of both opposing the surge. Last night was political theater. She chose to be viewed as being happy that Al Quada appears to be weaker inside Iraq now compared to a year ago. Obama chose to visually accent his differences with Bush. They are somewhat different visual political statements, but their actual words and votes have not been at odds on this.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:22 AM
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13. Shhh....no facts, please. eom
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:59 AM
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6. Hillary supports the troops! And if she didn't the Republicans would
be all over this as they will be when they begin their attacks on Obama.
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:07 AM
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8. I think that the surge has been too politicized to tell if it's working or not
although really, the question of whether or not it's working is a red herring.... it's sort of like asking if female circumcision is effective at removing the clitoris.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:16 AM
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10. So, the troops who have sacrificed to make this surge work
don't deserve applause for their victories? There have been some you know. And the military was represented at the SOTU last night.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:17 AM
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11. I dont see anythign in there about the troops.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:20 AM
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12. Well who has carried out the surge? bush? n/t
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:01 PM
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18. This thread needs a
good swift KICK in the tuchus.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:02 PM
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19. Why not? Bill regularly kisses Bush ass. nt
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:11 PM
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21. Hillary stood because she supports the troops. Now what were you saying about Obama?
He didn't stand?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:12 PM
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22. Very telling and explains why "the snub" is getting so much play here today.
Zogby said on Washington Journal that the rightwing ideologues (i.e., necons) want Hillary to win.

She's clearly their girl.

:scared:
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