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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:55 PM
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Giiven the exit polls in Florida and being the first closed Primary
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 09:03 PM by William769
Even though no delegates were awarded. Hillary is going into Super Tuesday going to take a majority win in population and delegate vote.

People may be downplaying Florida but it has given us a snapshot of what will happen next Tuesday.

On EDIT: added going to
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:56 PM
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1. Yep, it comes down to Super Tuesday like we always believed.
And may I just add that there are some disgusting threads on DU right now regarding HRC.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:59 PM
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5. It's called desperation.
And the thread congratulating HRC and her supporters plus the pic thread says it all. Some people are foaming at the mouth knowing whats going to happen on Super tuesday. I will be here also On Super Tuesday to give what has been given to us.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:56 PM
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2. the good news is that the progressive in the race got 7000+ votes after he dropped out nt
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:57 PM
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3. Obama fanatics think the peoples' vote is irrelevant.
But WE THE PEOPLE disagree.
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:05 PM
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13. total AMOUT OF VOTES
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THE NUMBERS (DEMOCRATIC VS REPUBLICANS) IN FLORIDA?

SHOULD WE DEMOCRATS BE CONCERNED IN THE GE IN FLORIDA?

WHAT ARE THE REAL VOTING NUMBERS PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!

this has me really scare...:eyes:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:06 PM
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14. Here
Clinton, 503,126 - 51%
Obama, 302, 123 - 31%
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:51 AM
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28. Reps apx 1.8 million and Dems apx1.6 million votes BUT
The Dem numbers are without any active campaigning happening at all, except for a week of Obama adds. We're in good shape I think.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:52 AM
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29. BTW - Welcome to DU!
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:57 PM
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4. Exit polls are irrelevant for Florida
We have no clue what would have happened if Obama supporters had had the slightest bit of motivation to go out and vote today.

By the way, can you tell me which states Clinton has won that have led to her winning more delegates than Obama? Oh cuz I'm such a nice guy I'll tell you: ZERO.

Obama had the advantage in awarded delegates before tonight. He still does.
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:59 PM
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7. So is that an admission that's it's not about civic responsibility.. just about your candidate?
There were other issues on the ballot.... including a property tax giveaway that Crist engineered.

Ok, I got your number.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:02 PM
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11. Yes he had the advatage and with that advantage he is losing Florida by 21% right now.
BTW the delegate count is Clinton 252, Obama 158. Come Super Tuesday as I said the picture Florida has given us bodes very well for Hillary In the Latino vote by itself.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:59 PM
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6. Not in delegate vote? Not sure what you mean by that.
Obama still leads is primary/caucus delegate. Correct? (not counting super-delegate projections)
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:05 PM
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12. Iedited the op
After reading your response. I read read what I wrote and changed it. Thanks.
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Zhuk Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:00 PM
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8. Hillary has won the nomination
There's no doubt in my mind that she's going to win Super Tuesday now, it's definitely hers to lose to Obama
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:01 PM
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9. I am a floridian. I VOTED FOR OBAMA
However, I decided whoever wins our primary, i'll support in GE. What I do know is that Hillary is no Kerry and Gore.. if something fishy happens here in the GE with our votes and the machines SHE WILL FIGHT FOR IT!!..

She is a tough cookie and she calls it like it is. Yesterday she loudly said exactly what i felt about the SOTU AND his last speach.. that it was his last.. AND i WAS :bounce:

congrats to HILLARY!!..

let the best one win on super tuesday.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:11 AM
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25. Glad you've seen the light, Sebass!
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:01 PM
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10. You're ignoring the most imporatant part of the exit polls
voters who decided who voted today broke for Obama, with no campaigning. People who voted MONTHS ago went for Hillary.

Her camp is worried tonight. Don't let the mad hatter party fool you.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:06 PM
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15. Thats msm spinning
look at the exit polls. BTW her camp is estacit this evening.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:10 PM
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17. Why are they "estacit" over another non-contested win?
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:08 PM
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16. huh?
prove it?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:15 PM
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18. Page 5 of CNN exit poll

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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:29 AM
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27. No campaigning??
Not exactly true as he had ads on TV. If you really think that nobody has heard of Obama and just voted for Hillary out of name recognition, you're dreaming.
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 06:04 AM
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30. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Hillary won that "most important part"
That "most important part" (may I quote you elsewhere?) :evilgrin: went to HILLARY!

Exit polls: Clinton wins late deciders

Among all voters who made their decision in the last three days (including those who made their decision today), 37 percent went for Clinton and 34 percent went for Obama in early exit polls.

Among voters who made their decision on Election Day, the gap was even larger: 35 percent supported Clinton, 31 percent John Edwards, and 27 percent Obama. When those last minute-deciders are removed from the equation, Obama regains a 5-point edge over Clinton among just those voters who made their decision over the weekend, 45 to 40 percent.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/29/exit-polls-clinton-wins-late-deciders/
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:15 PM
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19. Just returned from working at Florida Primary ;surprised that area which was mostly african american
and Haitian in South Florida voted for Hillary instead of Obama. Even young
African American women were voting for Hillary as well as the elder AA men and women. I was really quite surprised to see that. How do I know? We were using Sequoia touch machines in 3 lanugages English, Spanish, and Creole. about 50% of the people needed help operating the machines (not he most user friendly program) and so I did see how they were voting.

Hillary's win, no surprise, but I didnt expect it to be THAT BIG.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:00 AM
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23. Very interesting, thanks for posting. n/t
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:14 AM
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26. That's fantastic!
You've just made my day!
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:10 PM
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20. not really
I don't know what's going to happen next Tuesday, but certainly Florida has given us no snapshot of anything.

It was an uncontested election.

Super Tuesday has contested elections.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:50 AM
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21. And how was it uncontested?
And who was it uncontested for?
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:58 AM
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22. Gee, johnnydrama, you rhyme with Pollybama!
NT
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:00 AM
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24. Don't be so sure.
Hillary won by a big margin because of early voting. Had there not been early voting, it would've been very close and Obama (according to those exit polls) would have won. Now that does favor Clinton in California, where a lot of voters have already cast their ballots, but it's obvious Obama is trending upward. Will it be enough to win a larger share of delegates Tuesday? Hard to say, but I wouldn't discount him.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 06:06 AM
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31. Do you have a link for this?
"Hillary won by a big margin because of early voting."
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:17 PM
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32. Go check the exit polls.
They were talking about it on MSNBC and CNN last night.

That is an exact quote from them. Hillary won big with the votes cast early, Obama won with the votes cast yesterday.
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