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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:25 PM
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623,032 votes for Hillary and counting,,,,,,,,they don't count? their voices shouldn't be heard?
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:26 PM
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1. not shouldn't ... WILL NOT COUNT.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:26 PM
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2. If Obama was the one with those votes, Bill Clinton would be complaining on tv at this very minute.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:27 PM
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4. Obama's whining already apparently
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:27 PM
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3. yawn
Nope, shouldn't and will not count. Who cares...yawn, won't count...moving on.
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mrmx9 Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:29 PM
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8. Shouldn't the votes of the people who didn't vote because it didn't count be heard too!
If Florida's delegates are to count then it needs to be a proper election where the candidates campaign i.e. there should be a re-vote before the convention!
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:47 PM
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20. Can you name even one? It's a record turnout for a democratic primary.
We received endless information in the mail from the State of Florida ahead of time saying our vote was important.

Our governor was on local television every day telling us to vote, and our vote was important.

Our local officials set up information booths and sent out sample ballots to answer question, and always stressed for us to vote, our vote was important.

Our neighbor, friends, relatives, all and sundry urged everyone else to vote, our vote was important.

So we voted.

And now who is telling us our vote didn't matter? Clueless onlookers, and bitter candidates.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:28 PM
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5. Not only no but HELL NO!
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:28 PM
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6. they need to take it up with their state party leaders who did this to them
it's not the problem of the rest of us. we didn't elect their leaders.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:30 PM
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9. big supporter of Democratic ideals, I see
screw their individual rights . . . its their problem . . . not mine
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:29 PM
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7. No! delegates come from the sky - baby Jesus rains them down - not from votes, silly!
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 09:30 PM by robbedvoter
Voters stink - who needs them?
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:30 PM
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10. They'll vote in the GE
if they really wanted their voices heard they should've done a mass protest against the State Democrats, who brought this onto Florida themselves.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:33 PM
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11. Funny
they gave me a sticker when I voted and it didn't say I Voted - it said My Vote Counted

it kind of reminded me of Fox News fair and balanced - I've always said if you have to say fair and balanced it probably ain't so - and if you have to say my vote counted - it probably didn't - who knows here in Florida for all I know my vote was counted for John McCain - or maybe Pastor Hillbilly..or maybe even Billary....

The Dems will seat the delegates from both MI and FL - take it to the bank....they need BOTH states in the general election
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:33 PM
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12. We told you already
Idiot
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:33 PM
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13. Sounds like 623,032 people should be chasing their State Democratic Party Officials Out of Town....
That is who they need to turn their anger against.

Their own State Democratic Party Officials have stolen from them the opportunity to have their delegates seated at the National Democratic Party Convention.

And the blame lies squarely at their feet since the National Democratic Party gave them multiple opportunities to change their Primary Date to comply with the National Democratic Party Rules they all agreed to abide by.

So you can cut the complaint about 'their voices should be heard.' WE all agree their voices should be heard as they chase their State Democratic Party Officials responsible for this fiasco out of town.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:34 PM
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14. They should be heard, but they shouldn't count for anything.
If you want to break the rules, don't expect to be rewarded for it.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:38 PM
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28. Bingo!!!!
:toast: from a Florida voter.
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Clintonite Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:35 PM
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15. They don't count, but this sends a huge message! Total domination!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:37 PM
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16. What do Floridians think about that - that they don't count?
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:39 PM
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17. It's not that they don't count, but...
Nobody campaigned there, and seeing Obama in person and addressing your personal questions is a lot different than reading about Obama in the NY Times. Nobody in the world is going to say that Clinton is a better physical presence than Obama. Plus, exit polls show that most of Hillary's lopsided support came from early votes, and that voters began to gravitate towards Obama in the past couple of weeks.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:39 PM
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18. Have you asked Terry McAuliffe about it since it's HIS RULE? You know how to reach him?
TeamClinton believes most Democrats are stupid and won't know that her top guy set that rule up and they are now trying to twist the perception of Dean as if it was HIS Rule that caused this problem, when Florida agreed to the rule and voted for it AGAIN when it came to a vote in 2006.

So - what explanation for your outrage do you want to give to informed Democrats, Herman?
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:41 PM
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19. IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE SHE AGREED THAT IT WOULDN'T COUNT.
You Clintonites are dense. Your "girl" agreed in writing not to campaign in Florida and that the delegates would not count, but now that her slimy back is against the wall, she's going back on her word. SCUM.

J
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:53 PM
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22. Delegates and votes are two seprate entities. And then there are committed delegates which ....
might be 32,000 feet over the heads of most posting that Floridians votes don't count.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:48 PM
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21. Hill past 700,000 now
Damn right they should count.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:55 PM
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23. I'm fine with that....
:rofl:
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:03 PM
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24. Don't blame me. I voted for Kucinich.

I need to get that bumpersticker.
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:10 PM
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25. No Campaign... All Over Age 65
There you go again...

And sorry Billary - you are no Jack Kennedy.

I WOULD LOVE a woman president - but i don't want a manwoman sandwich called "Billary"

Obama folks - no need to fan the flames here - this one was almost funny. Let it pass. Billary trying (rather desperately) to trumpet tonight in Florida? Not even worthy of a response actually.

Billary - we remember your vote suppor Bush on Iraq. You wanted to "look more hawkish and tough" - for the "general election" knowing of course that Bill would win the primaries for you - because he can weep on queue and play the race-baiting card with Whites while pandering to Blacks. Billary we know you went to New York just to carpet bag - so you could talk about your wonderful experience in the Senate - boy did you jump to get on that armed services committee - gosh you do "look hawkish" - nobody can call you a weak woman in a general election. How clever you are Billary!! Oh yeah, and I forgot you were first lady too right? Wow! Gosh how stellar Billary.

Billary - we remeber your lack of conviction. We remember. We remember how you supported Bush's Bankruptcy Law -- "Leave No Credit Card Company Behind."

We Remember Billary.

What is it like lunching for $1,000 a plate with the Drug Companies? Introducing them to your friends in the Senate who make the rules?

We Remember Billary.

What is it like being supported by more lobbyists than any other candidate Democrat or Republican?

Billary - we remember - and we won't make it easy for you to lie your way into office.

Viva Obama On to Feb 5th!!

Enjoy your Florida night Billary... it may be your last celebration.


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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:28 PM
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26. No, lets change the rules now that Clinton has won.
Is it raining idiots or what?
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:36 PM
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27. Why not let states have their 2012 primaries in 2010?
I say you don't get delegates if you pull that shit.
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