Obama got 22% of the white vote. Has the racial flap hurt him?

He got 36% of the white vote in New Hampshire but fell 24% (third) in South Carolina and 22% (tied with Edwards) in Florida. This is a decline of a third. Are the last two state's results flukes or has Obama been permanently damaged by the racial flap that ensued after New Hampshire?

Aside from South Carolina, where he got 40% of the white vote, he has ranged from 17-23% everywhere.

OK, I may be exaggerating, but I think he is going to have trouble getting the "white" and the "latino" votes. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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who spam the board with this shit. I grew up in the 60's-70's, and it seems like these people did not even breathe the same air that I did. I guess they don't realize that they represent a teeny portion of this population that is still afraid of the 'black man'. Lately they are none to fond of the Kennedy's, John Kerry ..or any other truly "Democratic" representative who doesn't join their 'crusade'. The 'boomerang' effect has been quite lovely to behold.

Has nothing to do with race. Besides, I am not sure what race he is.

fyi

Funny - no one ever cared about that before. We've just been black, no matter how much white blood we have.

Until this year, no one was trying to call Obama white - and he would have been laughed out of any arena he operated in if, with his brown skin, crinkly hair and clearly African features, he had tried to call himself white. But now that he's a hot property, white folks are trying to claim him!

You've had 43 presidents and countless presidential candidates all to yourselves. And now that we have a dynamic, exciting, viable brother who is lighting up the political world and has a good chance at becoming the next president, you want him, too?

Well, sorry. You can't have Obama. He's ours.

:sarcasm:

just like Halle Berry, Alicia Keys, etc.

though, in reality, 10-20% of "white" Americans hold a drop or two or three.

More damaging than a globally televised cuckolding that ended in... her staying married?

And she's an icon of feminism to you people?

:crazy:

Kucinich is not my "icon," just the only candidate who represents my views generally. I don't go around plastering his picture all over this board...

but who are you to suggest that the only proper way to handle infidelity is divorce?

What's wrong with forgiving a person and moving on.

Staying with someone who publicly humiliated me in front of THE ENTIRE WORLD? I couldn't respect myself after that.

She is either spineless or opportunistic. We want neither trait in our leader.

because that's the way the Repukes played it.

Nice to know you approve of their tactics.

but what does it really matter? Someone plays you like that, and everyone knows, and you keep on with him for whatever reason--it doesn't look good. Is that right? I don't know, but I've certainly never stayed with someone who cheated on me, and I don't plan to.

Whatever the reasons behind why we know about it, I believe her course of action (not demonstrating that this is unacceptable by dumping him) has empowered men who abuse women by cheating on them.

But this illustrious subthread started with the observation that a Clinton supporter calling Obama "damaged goods" is pretty laughable, since nothing anywhere near as damaging to his public image has happened. And you don't need to have any particular opinion of the right or wrong of her actions to accept that.

People have a right to work out their problems without the neighbors or the whole world having a say.

She did not empower any man to abuse women by cheating on them. That's reaching very badly.

Why should she have to make a symbolic gesture by leaving him to make a statement for women the world over, if it wasn't right for her?

Why not just accept the fact that we had no business knowing about the whole sordid mess. Since then, Repuke after Repuke has been caught with their pants down, no pun intended, ahem. Nobody cared about it other than the hypocrisy on display.

even if they are politicians. But that doesn't change the fact of the damage.

I don't think the "snub" was real either, but I fully acknowledge the damage that is going to cause (an unknown quantity at this point).

than ever. There's no damage for us to consider. We can leave that to the Pukes, who already know that Bill's poll numbers went up during the partisan impeachment. They may not want to go there again.

He's the one who looks like he got over. The typical American attitude to infidelity is "If I caught him doing that I'd rip his balls out..." I'd say there's damage. But we seem to be differing on our definition of "damage."

No one's got a good comeback yet.

I have been put in my place!

:rofl:

someone would have ripped for either way. She did what was right, remained strong and stood by her family. What would have been accomplished by leaving her husband, the president of the US?

You're a sorry excuse of a person.

when you call me a sorry excuse for a person.

:rofl:

and they can see you have nothing to say. You are flailing angrily and will only attract those who are already disposed to such "activity."

Haven't you heard you catch more flies with honey than vinegar?

remember that come Nov if HRC is on the ticket. Thanks Whites & Latinos for telling this black woman that you wont vote for a black candidate.

What do they say...Karmas a bitch baby :)




WE SHALL OVER COME!!!

seek help for your hate problem.

Florida is a extremist Conservative hate mongering state.

Considering all of that 22% is not bad for him not campaigning there.

Yeah, if someone doesn't vote for St. Obama they are racist. :sarcasm:

He didn't campaign in the state....it's been proven when he has his feet on the ground he pulls enourmous crowds and enourmous votes.

So it would stand to reason that if he didn't campaign there the vote count would be down....

And ummm Florida is a racist state....

Obama will be just fine, don't worry. :eyes:

who knew?"

:eyes:

her dismal performance with educated voters and rural voters...

Yeah that proves anything.

Good job smearing white Democrats in the South as racist, though! When Obama loses badly on Super Tuesday it will be funny to see Obamites smear every state that voted against him as racist. Who knew California was a racist hotbed? :mad:

Obama didn't campaign in Florida, or any of the candidates for that matter.

So, the exit polling is useless and meaningless.

Just more Billary spin here.

He's labeled the "black candidate" now.

I really didn't expect that people in 2008 would vote based on skin color, but I was wrong.

a 'black' candidate by people who are into that kind of thing as soon as he announced his candidacy...and they've been trying to hammer it home ever since. It's a generational thing. Or maybe a breeding thing.

If he had more balanced support say a 60% black and 40% white split, then that negates the label.

It's almost as if he was TOO successful courting the AA vote.

We'll know for sure in six days.

It's almost like they're trying to place the race card :shrug:

Even though it is wrong, you have to admit it was effective for them to basically pidgeonhole him into a specific demographic. Sure they've angered and alienated some black people, but I'm assuming they did a profit/loss analysis and figured they would gain overall with the white/latinos. I am by no means endorsing this repugnant strategy, but it is winning them votes.

Now that it is no longer an advantage for him we are supposed ignore the consequences of Obama's strategy to gain in the short term by winning South Carolina?

And the more I watch Obama re: GLBT issues the more I like him.

...but when the media and Obama supporters started screaming "Racism" over any comment, or turn of phrase by the Clnton camp, it backfired on Obama. Now, instead of being a candidate that just happened to be black, he's become "the black candidate." jmho.

through no fault of his own. The press and political world have obsessed over his race from the beginning.

Including having major "journalists" ask him stupid questions like this:

"You have a very cool style when you're doing those town meetings where you're out on the campaign trail, and I wonder, how much of that is tied to your race?"*

*Actual question asked of Barack Obama by George Stephanopoulos on "This Week," May 13, 2007

because they disagree with the policies of a man who happens to be black.

Today, the unemployment rate in Ghana is 25%. Clearly, worldwide unemployment is skyrocketing.