I am betting on an Edwards endorsement of Hillary

I hope I am wrong.

I think its the only thing that makes sense at this point. Remember after the last debate the two of them had a little meeting? I think the writing was on the wall yesterday in florida. The people who voted in the last week broke Obamas way. I think it was a wake up call for Hillary. Something has to be done to stop the momentum the Kennedy endorsement has given Obama. I think Edwards is going to do his part today to try to stop it the best he can. I think he has been offered VP already.

Purely speculation on my part but its the only reason I can see for him to drop out now.

That would be awesome, and the final nail for Obama-mania.

for wither Obama or clinton if he endorsed either one. There aren't enough delegates on super tues to seal the deal for anyone. But it would help to secure a lot of those delegates for one whomever he endorses.

too. "The Clintons" are exactly what he was fighting.

then we who have supported him and donated to him have truly been schnookered and there is no one to trust at all, not anymore.

They have a few differences on HOW to accomplish some things but they are very similar in voting and working for the same issues.

stop actually paying attention to what people stand for, how they have voted, etc. all you need to know is that Obama is the progressive candidate (you can tell cause he's black and gives good speeches) and Clinton is the insider bush-lite (you can tell because her name is Clinton) Obviously Edwards supports Obama, not Clinton, cause he's the candidate of change.

ignore the fact that Edwards and Clinton have an almost completly similar voting record in the Senate, and that their position papers could basically have been drafted by the same person, you aren't supposed to notice that.

yesterday, the progressive->moderate line went: Edwards-->Hillary-->Obama, if you trust their records and what they write and actually say, not how they say it. stop saying any differently. Hillary is EVIL. We hate her. that's the tautology, and you are obviously a conservative troll if you don't agree.

After pointing out the similar voting records those spotted leopards might soon rejoice about how easily they recognize each other.

The end is only the beginning of something else

It's amazing how ideas get recycled about who people are and what they represent without any recourse to facts.

Including me! I joined when Howard Dean took over the DNC. I'll leave when I feel that the progressive changes have stopped. I'm VERY close to that now!

a year of looking at HRC v MCCain and knowing that's what I have to live with the next 8 years. Europe is starting to look good.

decide for themselves.

There isn't much left in the party for progressives at this point, but what shreds are left are more with Obama. The Clintons have nothing for us.

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She is diametrically opposed to what Edwards has been calling for.

The most likely scenerio if he doesn't endorse Obama is that he'll stay neutral.

I think a deal is in place because of this
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4286983

I like to believe thats true. If he truly believe in his Cause I think he would have to be ABC but I am not sure that it will play out that way. Like I said I hope I am wrong but it feels like Hillary to me. I don't think his decision makes sense any other way.

are saying how close Edwards is with Obama and how much he likes him. I think he is MUCH closer with the Clintons, especially his buddy Bill. I've always thought Edwards was working with Clinton from the get go.

I think Clinton has been behind the whole "let's remake Edwards as a populist" strategy.

Aren't you even a little ashamed of saying something like that with absolutely no truth to it?

the Edwards working with the Clintons from the beginning. I could be wrong, (and if I am I will certainly be ecstatic). However, unfortunately I don't I am. :(

It has to have been intensely difficult for the Edwards to being running a campaign when their life is as it is. They have 2 small children and she is not healthy. It makes sense to fight for a cause you believe in (and in EE's case, the man you believe in). It makes no sense to sacrifice this value time when the family knows how precious it really is on a fraud. Are you going to even state that his first "job" was to harm the Kerry campaign from within?

This is on a par with the idiotic claims that Kerry was working to insure Bush stayed President. The reality is that anyone running for President is doing it because they think they will be a good President - and want the power to put their ideas into practice. It seems a grueling, difficult experience for everyone running.

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Why would he drop today? It seems like very odd timing to me. I hope you are right though.

If so, why did he drop out now? Hillary's busy trying to plug her FL win, and this took all the gas out of it in the media.

If he endorses her it becomes a huge boost. Either way I am on the edge of my seat yet again today.

it would confirm my worst suspicions about Edwards. I am SO hoping you are wrong.

I have friends who are Edwards supporters, and to my knowledge they all dislike Hillary. I'm not sure how they would react if he endorsed her.

...and maintaining ANY sort of credibility...

but ill make a bet with ya on it if you like. If he endorses obama I will make a post here saying Truebrit71 is the most savy political guy I know or something to that effect and you do the same if it goes the other way :) Bet?

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if he stays nuatral we will have to wait till he does endorse though ok?

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Well...what do you call Obama. Those corporate funds are spread far and wide. Obama's war chest is bulging at the seams from corp funds.

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ANYONE but HRC in '08

They just love his record as a "conciliator."

ABO in '08

Obama has taken NO corporate PAC money - none! What people point you to are the opensecrets etc websites that show the donations summed over EMPLOYER. When you contribute - you fill in the line with your employer. That is where it comes from. So, everyone from a guy who lays cable to a service rep to a middle manager to Ivan Seidenberg, the CEO will be added into Verizon. PS Edwards got them too - His numbers were lower as he raised less money.

Before jumping to conclusions.

Edwards said

"Barack and I are both candidates of change. We just disagree on how to make change. And when you're the candidate of change, the status quo always pushes back."


I don't think he's endorsing Hillary.

but then i also remember the next debate after that him and Hillary doing a nice little tag team on Obama too.

Again I hope i am horribly wrong on this one. Its just the way it smells to me right now.

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Absolutely not. She's everything he stands against.

face of this Earth. If for so long he was railing against the corporations and calling Clinton the most corporate candidate...just to endorse her! I say it could be the other way around...maybe Obama has offered EDWARDS VP?

as I don't see Hillary offering him that, however, maybe she offered him AG to go after the slimeballs (who bankroll her campaign), I guess it's pretty obvious who he MIGHT back, but anything's possible as we all know.

But I suspect he's looking for a cabinet position now and will likely endorse Hillary.

Of the two candidates standing, his message matches up much closer to Obama's than Clinton's.

She is the utter opposite to Edwards on his most important issue, corporate influence in Washington.

I would feel stunned and wholly disappointed if Edwards were to endorse that.

You as a Obama supporter, predict Edward goes to Hillary...
I as a Hillary supporter, predict Edward goes to Obama.

I think I know what we are feeling.
We are both a little tired of entire mess 'Obama vs. Hillary'.

I am just hoping, Edwards may end this divisive fight.
I just want this to end and make sure Dem win in November.

Hertopos

a Hillary supporter and hope he just quits both of them. He needs to be true to his own message about rich and poor and neither candidate is willing to NOT negotiate with the powers that be. He wanted to fight them, not make nice with big oil, etc. There was no room at the table for ins. co.'s etc. Be true to your self John, be true to your own beliefs.

I always wondered about that private meeting after the debate. And with Obama starting to get some steam, Hillary had to do something to kill it off. She's probably guaranteed John either the VP or a high level cabinet position. Also, remember, that John and Bill are VERY close friends. It looks like it's time to coronate the queen.

I sincerely doubt he would endorse Clinton. It would completely negate everything he campaigned on this season.

But I have a feeling thats whats going to happen. Like I said I hope I am wrong.

Is he bitter or did he make a deal with HRC for a cabinet position? I hope not and hope he stays above it all

if he endorses Hillary it will be very telling. My hope is that his run was real, I am still not sure though and thats why I never got behind him. If he endorses hillary though it will have the effect of confirming my fears about him.

But not by a huge %. You also fail to mention that those who decided in the very last day broke Hillary's way, according to the exit polling.

Edwards can't endorse Clinton unless he has no interest in ever being taken seriously again.

If he isn't, he'll support Obama or not endorse.

But it's my sense, too.

pushes me more toward thinking I called this one.

at the same time i would be surprised. i guess i would have been surprised a while ago but some of the things the OP says kind of makes sense. when you take into account why Edwards chose this time to get out. and not after the debates where he could at least get his message out.

we will just have to wait and see.

if you do think it's about that and him being vp ?

Watch his pull-out speech in New Orleans.
Edwards makes it clear that he will support whoever is the nominee.
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x89022

Also read what Edwards has been saying to his supporters:
There is no chance of an endorsement before Super Tuesday, or even after.
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4296341&mesg_id=4296341

...as he was originally funded by trial lawyers, and AG is the top lawyer in the land.

turns into a pretty powerful clique of lawyers. and if the Edwards Agenda is their agenda, i say RIGHT ON !!!

he may have parallel deals to this effect with both candidates; he would not plan to endorse if i'm right.

He attacked HRC ferociously. He said she had no conscience and was corrupt. Though he attacked Obama as well, it was not as virulently. I suspect he will simply wait to endorse the nominee.

He has made it clear that he wants to continue as an advocate for his issues. He has more leverage before he endorses than afterwards. He also will anger some people who love him when he does - either way. (Look at the response to Kerry, Kennedy, Clark etc) If he had a clear cut reason that one was clearly better than the other, he likely would already have made that recommendation.

I'm wondering if he'll make an endorsement in the next two days.