For Edwards Supporters ONLY

Where is your vote going?

(Clinton and Obama supporters, do not spam or vote in this, Please).

None of the above.

Not enough of that in America

If that is how you feel, that is my response. I can grieve and be a realist all at the same time. Some of us multi-task

I think I'll save it for someone who represents something that I actually believe rather than give it away to the oaf who scares me least.

if so, enlist and get ready to go to Iran.

we'll be there anyway.

I'm 50, and in possession of a DD-214 already. Thanks for the offer, though.

you may have been able to help prevent.

How very progressive of you

I'm truly sorry that I don't meet your high standards of idealism. Fortunately, the nights this time of the year are long, affording me ample time to grieve over that in the darkness that I deserve.

Have a nice day. :)

Personally, I do not think my standards are particularly high. Those who do nothing to help prevent more war because they personally have no fear of ending up bloodied ARE a bit different from the chicken hawks who start wars for profit.

I have no chance of being called up but I do care for a lot of people, here and abroad, who will end up in a fight they have no voice in.

If I don't change your mind about voting in November, fine. My aim is beyond you and to others who may be thinking of staying of the fence in the GE.

Do you actually believe that Obama or Clinton are going to stop war? You can't! Can you?

If you do believe that, I think that's either funny or enviable, depending upon your age. If you are young then that bespeaks an idealism that's enviable and a naivety that's commensurate with youth. I wouldn't dream of criticizing such a person.

If you are older, then it's rather humorous (in a sad way) that you haven't caught on yet. I seem to remember Bill Clinton doing a fair amount of bombing and warring, too. I don't see how anyone over 40 can think that any of the candidates left are in favor of peace.

But ANYONE who thinks sitting it out in November hasn't learned a damned thin in the past eight years and I will most certainly point out the falicy of 'they're all the same' in hopes of getting more people to the poles, even if they have to hold their noses.

And NOWHERE have I advocated for HRC in the primary race. Obama has a lot of younger people getting involved. I see that as important and those younger voters DO have to worry about Iran, unlike you who have no fear of personal threat from the GOP plan of four more wars.

...that anyone who votes in November hasn't learned a damned thing in the last eight years. In that time, the Democrats have turned rolling over into a fine art form. What's going to be different now, except for the "where" part of the wars. I have absolutely zero reason to believe that either Obama or Clinton will keep us out of wars.

Your main point is a bit silly anyway. No young person need worry about Iran. There's no draft. There is no credible evidence that there's going to BE a draft, either. The only people going to Iraq are there because the *chose* to enlist. So while the concern for the young is all dramatic and probably effective as an emotional argument, it just doesn't hold much substance logically.

And we're going to get four more years of war whether Clinton, Obama, Romney, or McCain is elected. Count on it.

Besides, if Edwards is on your ballot, you can still vote for him and make a statement.

But DON'T STAY HOME!!

NGU.

Unless they are more corporatist than stupid!

I've had enough of being "fringe far left" marginalized. I want a new party that treats me as a mainstream member, not a "problem" to deal with that we've been dealt with the last few decades. If things get bad enough, I'll find a way to move to Canada instead.

...to penalize real Progressives in smaller races by throwing a tantrum over the top of the ticket??

:eyes:

NGU.

It's all a scam! The corporate elements of the Democratic Party have usurped the people's control. It's a losing battle, and I refuse to be a "battered spouse" any more!

NGU.

They had to know that they couldn't keep ALL the buffoons voting for their corporatist crap forever.

...but don't penalize the local campaigns.

Geez, talk about yanking out one's eye to spite one's face.

NGU.

They don't want our support or input. They want our cooperation --and they only want that to claim political legitimacy. The only power left to me is the power of non-cooperation. I choose to exercise that power, slight though it may be.

I neither encourage nor discourage anyone else from doing the same. It is a personal choice.

In my case, it is based on voting for more than 40 years --so it's hardly frivolous or sudden. It has been an evolutionary process. I rather think that that evolution has reached an endpoint, though. I think I'll just live out the remainder of my life doing little things for whatever seems good at the time and leave the political nonsense (and that is very much what it has become, imo) to those that feel there's some point left in it. I even wish them well.

But I think that the American Experiment is over. It is now an exercise of corporate power over the many for the good of the few.

Then their coup will be complete! I think it's time to look for continuing the "American experiment" someplace else besides Amerika. Unfortunately Amerika, will always be trying to run the world show and affect wherever we go too.

I couldn't possibly agree with you more.

I'm done sweating it. I have more immediate concerns that I have to address. If I do it right, politics will cease to have any meaningful effect on me for the remainder of my life.

And I intend to do it right.

I've said before (and meant it) that I respect both Clinton and Obama, and believe that either one of them would have a lot to offer, but I didn't really have a second choice after Edwards. (Didn't really plan on needing one, but what can you do?) :shrug: I'm going to have to think about it.

Count in in there!

I'm not happy about it, but I really don't want Hillary to be our nominee.

but I could very easily go either way.

Not fair of me to vote at this time. Maybe in a day or two when I've thought about it more assiduously.

They can co-opt JE's platforms and EARN my vote.

Dupe.

of Dems as a whole. This site is far more anti-Clinton to a far greater degree than the party is. I would not want to bet on where most of the votes will go. Time will tell though because given the closeness of delegates and popular support between the two, the answer will be "the nominee" in the real world

the Reagan-admiring, gay-baiting, youth-pandering, scold.

I'm not taken in by the speeches and the endorsements. I'm highly suspicious of someone who keeps saying Republicans have ideas and brought "change."

Sorry- but he doesn't automatically get my vote.

I happen to think, as much as I don't want another dynasty in the White House, Hillary would be better than Obama.

I need to go back and re-read Clinton's and Obama's stand on things, what they want to do, etc.

I don't want to make a knee-jerk decision.