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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:42 AM
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Fineman: Top Aides for Edwards reached out to Obama only to get rebuffed.
Wow!!

http://www.newsweek.com/id/106153

I'm told that Edwards's decision was very closely held, meaning he and his wife alone knew the score. As of Tuesday morning, he still had an ambitious schedule planned in the Super Tuesday states. But Tuesday afternoon he notified his staff that he wanted to go to New Orleans instead. Everyone knew what that meant. That devastated city was where Edwards had begun his campaign in the name of the poor and forgotten. Now he would return to say that his campaign had failed, but that the cause lived on. As for his endorsement plans, they remain unclear. His representatives had been reaching out to Obama's high command for weeks, but I am told that they rebuffed him. A top aide to Edwards cautioned not to assume that Edwards would endorse Obama. "He's gained a lot of respect for Hillary, for her toughness in all that she has been through." That could just be a negotiating ploy on Edwards's part. We'll see.

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:44 AM
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1. Obama, who claims to want to unite us, doesn't seem to know how to even play nice
within his own party.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:08 PM
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37. BO's "high command" apparently has a lot in common
with his DU supporters. Arrogance.

Bake
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:36 PM
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43. his ego has grown in proportion with his *pr*
Even more reason to not vote for someone who is believing his own hype.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:46 AM
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2. Whoa
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 11:47 AM by seasonedblue
I don't know what to say, but Obama's arrogance may be his undoing. FWIW, I still think Edwards won't announce his endorsement anytime soon.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:47 AM
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3. thanks for this post. This is making me lean to Hillary. I want to hear what
JE has to say at 1 pm.

Still planning on voting for JE on the 12th, but that could change.

SaveElmer, cali, and the rest are wearing me down. :hi:
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:04 PM
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I don't understand
why would Obama turn down an endorsement from Edwards?
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:39 PM
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45. It makes no sense. The JE information is too new and we just have to get
the facts straight. He's suppose to give his speech in a few minutes.


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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:54 PM
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53. and you believe fineman? This man thought bush was god for
years. As the candidate for change, I doubt Hillary is his number one choice for endorsement. we shall have to wait.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:48 AM
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4. So the Edwards camp has known for weeks Edwards was dropping out?
What else could that mean? But it also says the two Edwards only knew the score as of yesterday morning and told staff in the afternoon. So how could top aides be reaching out for weeks to Obama? This report is confusing.

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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:06 PM
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36. I don't think that is it.
I believe Edwards was still in the race until yesterday, I beleive his campaign activities and fund raising were still forward looking. But I don't believe, regardless of what he said (nor would I have expected him to say otherwise) that Edwards was 100% committed to staying into the race to the end either. It had to be something his camp kept looking at when he never finished more than a clear to distant third in any race after Iowa.

Perhaps Edwards wanted to see if Obama had any interest in coordinating campaign messages? That could have been the precursor to him asking both campaigns now to champion the poor more. If we accept the accuracy of Fineman or his sources, would that have been a way of feeling Obama out indirectly?
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:38 PM
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44. that's a pure-D crock -- they didn't know
As of this morning we were all heading to a rally in Atlanta for John. There was NO indication of a change.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:49 AM
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5. Who told Fineman that? Mark Penn? You know Clinton supporters will jump on this like flies on shit.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 11:49 AM by cryingshame
"His representatives had been reaching out to Obama's high command for weeks, but I am told that they rebuffed him."

Source?

rofl
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:50 AM
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8. Fineman has been brutal towards Clinton on MSNBC,
so I doubt he'd take anything from her camp as fact.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:56 AM
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23. He sure has. I am waiting for him to don an Obama lapel pin.
I still don't trust what he says. this could be a set-up for Hillary supporters.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:09 PM
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40. I See From Your Sig Line You're Fond Of Scripture
Try Exodus 20:16
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:39 PM
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46. When campaigns wind down. aides talk to the press, leak stuff
That being said, I too am skeptical of Fineman.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:49 AM
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6. wait and watch
this could get interesting, on the other hand, John may feel that neither candidate would push his top issues sufficiently.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:49 AM
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7. What does that mean? How strange.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:51 AM
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9. Ah, Howard Fineman, He's made the list of conservative idiots...
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:51 AM
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10. are the obama people insane?
Do they WANT to lose this thing?
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:52 AM
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13. This is bullshit from Howard Fineman...
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:53 AM
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14. Be careful of your assumptions.
I don't know that you should assume that what Fineman states is true.

OTOH, if it is true - and I support Obama - it would indicate some dumbness on the part of his campaign.

I don't think they are that dumb though. I sure hope not.

I'll wait and see.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:54 AM
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17. Either that...
or Fineman is jerking us around. Again.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:51 AM
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11. From all I read concerning obama and from those that know
him best in Chicago politics say that obama is the type person that let others do all the work and he'll just show up for the coronation....If you watched obama monday, he struted and he smiled wide and I thought Monday night he actually thought he should receive a standing ovation when in entered the house chamber because in his warped mind he would be there the next sotu message....then about that time reality set in and this was about the same time HRC came over to shake hands and obama awakened from his lil day dreaming saw HRC and turned his back on her, because uh huh......

IT WAS SHE THAT WOULD BE GIVING THE NEXT STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH and yes Obama would be there, as an observor.....and as Senator
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:57 AM
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24. still riding that handshake garbage into the ground? that was so yesterday.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:52 AM
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12. Ooooooooo...That had better not be true
If it is things are going to get really nasty
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:53 AM
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15. May be we can wait for some facts rather than speculating from what the media whores tell us.
All we can say is that Fineman does not know if Edwards will endorse somebody, and possibly, his source does not know either. It would not be the first time.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:58 AM
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26. Thanks! We needed that. nt
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:54 AM
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16. As a Hillary supporter I hope he endorses neither. Let the voters
decide for themselves.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:54 AM
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18. Rebuffed why?
What was Edwards demanding?

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:55 AM
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19. Fineman? Oh puleeeeez...
:rofl:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:55 AM
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20. Well, if Howard Fineman said it...it must be true n/t
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:56 AM
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21. Doesn't say what he reached out for
I'm curious. What was the reaching out for?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:56 AM
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22. Please take EVERYTHING you read in the whore media with a TRUCKLOAD of salt.
Please.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:04 PM
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34. There's no way Obama would turn away Edwards
"Representatives" and "high command" are all BS.
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:57 AM
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25. Well it would explain...
It would explain why he attacked Hillary at the New Hampshire debate but then had switched to attacking Obama at last week's debate. Perhaps that was a sign.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:01 PM
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28. I think we'll find out if this is true by his endorsement. I-Can't -Wait. n/t
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:59 AM
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27. Interesting. First he rebuffs Hillary and then John? He must think since he has the DC
machine (Kennedy) behind him, he can win this without help. Very interesting strategy. Reminds me of Guiliani's strategy.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:01 PM
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29. Why is it only hacks like Fineman and Novak reporting this stuff?
Why in the world would they rebuff his endorsement?
Who wouldn't want an endorsement?
That just doesn't make sense.
And it definitely doesn't jibe with the words Obama had for John.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:16 PM
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41. Maybe he offered to support Obama if he would promise him the
VP job or a cabinet post. Maybe Obama refused because he has someone else in mind. He also said he'd have some Republicans in his cabinet. Colin Powell...any one?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:02 PM
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30. Here we go again.
If Obama had said, "Okay, John, let's make a deal," it would be "Obama makes back room deal to oust Hillary" or "Obama/Edwards tag teams Hillary." What will happen will happen.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:02 PM
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31. Did Fineman get both sides of this story? I thought not. nt
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:03 PM
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32. I don't buy that they would "rebuff" him
Obama's staff is very conscientious. What does Edwards "representatives" mean? Trippi, state chairs, what? And was it authorized. I bet if Edwards called, something would get done.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:03 PM
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33. Edwards was my candidate.... now I'm backing Obama
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highflyingbird Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:08 PM
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38. Edwards was my candidate
Now I'm backing Hillary. It was never even a question.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:05 PM
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35. That is some ridiculously vague writing for a "top" political reporter
If no one other than John and Elizabeth knew he was dropping out, what exactly were Edwards' aides reaching out for? Was this what Edwards' meeting with Hillary was about? How exactly did Obama's people rebuff Edwards?
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:08 PM
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39. Oooh, and what does Paris Hilton think of all this?
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cubs4life Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:36 PM
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42. The Obamaites would be all over this if it was HRC's top brass that did the rebuffing.
When the MSM whore press is flaming the Clintons they are "spot on" with Obama supporters. When they focus on their candidate, however, the shoe is definitely on the other foot.

Better toughen up your thin skins Obama supporters! If Obama should be the Dem nominee it is going to get very rocky with the whore MSM press when they start bashing Obama to hold up their media darling McCain.

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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:41 PM
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47. The Mighty 0 is all about inclusion - except for Democrats.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:42 PM
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48. Wait a freaking minute!
This is all hearsay! We don't know the real story.

We're hearing from the Edwards camp and NOTHING from the Obama camp.

You Hillabots are full of crap.
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spaceturkey Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:02 PM
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54. Is there any truth to this?

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/edwards_throws_dems_contest_in.html


"Asked whether he would get Edwards' endorsement, Obama smiled and walked inside, saying he would say more on the topic later in the day. Obama said he had spoken to Edwards, but did not provide any additional details about their conversation.

A campaign aide said the two men spoke Tuesday while Obama was in Kansas, and that Edwards indicated that he would likely be dropping out of the race, but did not provide a timetable. They had another brief conversation this morning when Edwards confirmed he would be exiting the contest."
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:44 PM
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49. Well, duh! Stupid idiots
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 12:44 PM by OzarkDem
Obama is an egomaniacal jerk. He's incredibly insecure because of his big ego, lack of experience and shady background. Not too different from Bush, actually.

The last thing he wants is someone in his campaign or administration who is smarter than him and is the polar opposite of the Shapeshifter.

I'm really surprised the Edwards folk haven't figured out who Obama really is.
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Omega3 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:00 PM
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50. I agree
the more I know of BO the more I dislike and don't trust him

he's got a real ego problem

I'm for Hillary now.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:54 PM
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52. We're honored to have you on board.
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magatte Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:08 PM
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56. that's just bullshit...
You are the insecure jerk for making these kind of accusations. If anything Obama is fair and believes in doing things the right way.

Now I am not going even into the "shady background". Don't you think if there was anything 'shady' about him that the Clintons would have it pasted on every newspapers in the land given that they are so eager to LIE about him on things like abortion or payroll taxes.

I repeat you are a jerk for making these insults and this slander.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:51 PM
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51. Someone else reported
a few days ago that Edwards campaign contacted Barack's campaign about a deal. The Barack campaign reportedly said they did nto want to make any deals. They wanted to fight it until the end and then negotiate at that time.
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spaceturkey Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:05 PM
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55. Is there any truth to this?
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 03:07 PM by spaceturkey
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008...


"Asked whether he would get Edwards' endorsement, Obama smiled and walked inside, saying he would say more on the topic later in the day. Obama said he had spoken to Edwards, but did not provide any additional details about their conversation.

A campaign aide said the two men spoke Tuesday while Obama was in Kansas, and that Edwards indicated that he would likely be dropping out of the race, but did not provide a timetable. They had another brief conversation this morning when Edwards confirmed he would be exiting the contest."

Edit: sorry, double post, I didn't think the first one went through
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:11 PM
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57. Bookmarked, and I will never forget it, either. nt
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:27 PM
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58. Edwards was told to gather as many delegates as he could.
That is my understanding. I presume to continue through super Tuesday.
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