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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:40 PM Original message |
Of all the Years for our Dem Party to do the Race/Gender Thing...why pick 2008? |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. Cuz that white man (Kerry) who ran in 2004 did so well? |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. The election in '04 was stolen |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. I think Dean would have won if the MSM |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I think you are right |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. With supporters like you |
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SecularNATION (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:18 AM Response to Reply #33 |
54. In the general? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #33 |
65. It is beyond RUDE to call Sen. Clinton a 'DIRTBAG" !! |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
60. Kerry was pathetic |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Hey we agree! |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Who announced first, Obama or Clinton? Just asking. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #30 |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #36 |
66. and now you call a poster Trollshit.---for asking a question. |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #36 |
68. I found the answer. Clinton, January, 2007 Obama, May 2007 |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. Get a grip. The voters are deciding. The white men don't always win, you know. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
63. Excuse me? Have you looked at all our previous Presidents?? |
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557188 (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. Offensive |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
35. I agree |
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Island Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. 'Cause the woman who's running |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I don't think Hillary would be so arrogant to run after just one term in the Senate, unlike... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Huh? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. Exactly |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. Don't forget Richardson--the only guy with executive experience in the group. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Great Point...I just added him...sorry for leaving out...What a Great Hispanic Candidate! |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I really didn't think we'd be down to two candidates by 'Super Tuesday' |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. And what about us here in NC...who don't vote until May 5th...we will never see the candidates |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. What about us in Ohio |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I'm with you |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. That would be my dream ticket too n/t |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
55. I feel your pain--New Jersey used to do it in June |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. right!!! |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
38. Chris Matthews is so excited to see history |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. He LOVES McCain |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
12. Excellent post.. interesting analysis and good points. I think we get caught up in the |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. And...the "Script" Decides...Not those of us Registered Democrats ...who donate |
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livvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
57. And McCain is the chosen one. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
16. Yeah... they should get to the back of the bus! |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
23. The party decided to have both a woman a black man run for President? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
24. Because they ran |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
25. Why not 2008? It's about time, on both accounts. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
26. After Bu*h, no republican presidential candidate had a snowball's chance in hell to win...until |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. shhhh. You'll break their hearts. |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #26 |
73. DING DING DING DING DING |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
27. answer: Some CABAL.... |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
28. The Dems only wanted to "make history" |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
29. Clue: white males aren't entitled to the presidency. too bad they made that the 'issue' for over 200 |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
31. Honestly, because we have been about making |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. A couple of things |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. right. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
37. Yes - let's wait another 20 or 30 years before allowing more than half of the population |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
40. Easy answer: It's the most plausible way to lose. |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Yeah, it is |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
45. Pathetic race/gender baiting from the Edwards camp. |
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LiberalHeart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Well, that was charming. |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. As charming as the OP's "Why did we have to nominate a broad or a colored"? |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
48. Congratulations on a comically lame post |
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AJ9000 (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:56 AM Response to Original message |
49. You're right. 2008 wasn't the best time to see of we're ready for a women/black president. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:05 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. You DO realize that that will ALWAYS be the excuse for maintaining a racist status quo? |
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AJ9000 (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I'm afraid many have supported for HRC or Barack based on gender/race. That's too bad |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:18 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. And people have supported Edwards because he's white, etc. |
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DiamondJay (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
51. one word: buzz |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:53 AM Response to Original message |
56. Another word: change. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
58. Why not ask Obama and Hillary, the ones with the huge egos. They could have waited. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. MLK could have just waited, too. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #59 |
70. bingo |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
61. Yeah! Let's wait a few more decades... ? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
62. Clinton embodies womanness and Obama embodies blackness. Live with it as they do. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I thought we weren't supposed to mention race. Furthermore, I thought Obama supporters are pointing |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Who declared we can not mention race? And i know obama is of mixed |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
67. Cabal. n/t |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
71. You missed the point |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
72. It was going to happen eventually |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
74. Because 2008 is a slam dunk win for the democrats. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
75. is a bit odd. |
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