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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:41 PM
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goddamn it is so confusing


He is a pup and full of beans. A Leo.


She is a Scorpio...a Scorpio who's been waiting to STICK IT BACK to the Rethugs, bigtime. I mean Cheney-style.


I think the Scorp gets my vote.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:49 PM
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1. the progressive is out, the populist is out, looks like those 2 we are stuck with nt
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:50 PM
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2. A kitten and a thug
:P
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:51 PM
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3. I love kittens. They're cute and cuddly -
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 07:52 PM by Kittycat
and when they get made at you, they piss in your laundry basket full of clean clothes, and shred the shit out of your couch when you trim their nails.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:59 PM
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6. I should have said "A kitten or a thug"
:)
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:53 PM
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4. Are you really using someone's astrological sign to determine whether to vote for them?
:eyes:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:26 PM
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7. NO, but the fact that she' s a Scorp tells me she'll be ruthless. She already is!
I'd prefer ruthless to neo-reconcilliation
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:52 PM
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15. I'm a Scorpio too! No wonder I like Hillary. n/t
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:48 PM
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14. There's got to be some way to distinguish between the two triangulators.
It's not like their platforms are going to guide me--or like I can trust them to stick to them.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:56 PM
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5. When has a Clinton ever stuck it to the Repugs?
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 07:57 PM by blm
And why did they support them throughout the last 7 years, especially publicly during Bill's summer2004 book tour?


http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/


And why close the books on Reagan and Bush's many crimes of office throughout the 90s, if they wanted to 'stick it to them' as you say?


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html


Sorry, el....I see a continuing protection of secrecy and privilege because now they have to protect Clinton, too, on the matters he protected Poppy.

That's one revolving door I want to bypass for this country and especially for open government.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:28 PM
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8. oh thanks. just what i needed.
A reality check.


C'mon I'm having a really hard time here.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:43 PM
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13. heh - I know. But more open government Dems are siding with Obama from my POV
so that tells me they don't want the Bush-Clinton cycle repeated.

And I had to find solace in Obama's legislation for transpareny in government. It did show he was on the right track for my biggest priority.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:28 PM
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9. Vote for the Scorched Earth/Divisive Candidate v Hope and Unity. We're really making
a lot of progress undoing the past 7 years.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:37 PM
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10. Please define your terms.
Hope?


Unity?

For what, in what? With whom? etc.
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:38 PM
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11. Wait a minute, what issues did John Edwards run his campaign on?
Don't get me wrong: I am shamelessly advocating Obama, and I will ask for your vote.
Still, I believe that this should be a point of principle for Edwards voters,
because these are the hallmark issues of the Edwards campaign.

And Hillary Clinton does not support these issues with the same conviction that Obama does.

Hillary Clinton will keep us in Iraq longer than Obama, and she voted to begin the war.

Not so with Obama:

“When I am this party's nominee, my opponent will not be able to say that I voted for the war in Iraq; or that I gave George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran; or that I supported Bush-Cheney policies of not talking to leaders that we don't like. And he will not be able to say that I wavered on something as fundamental as whether or not it is ok for America to torture — because it is never ok… I will end the war in Iraq… I will close Guantanamo. I will restore habeas corpus. I will finish the fight against Al Qaeda. And I will lead the world to combat the common threats of the 21st century: nuclear weapons and terrorism; climate change and poverty; genocide and disease. And I will send once more a message to those yearning faces beyond our shores that says, "You matter to us. Your future is our future. And our moment is now.”

— Barack Obama, Des Moines, Iowa, November 10, 2007

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/foreignpolicy /


Hillary Clinton takes corporate lobbyist money. Not so with Obama, and you can check
www.opensecrets.org for details.

“I am in this race to tell the corporate lobbyists that their days of setting the agenda in Washington are over. I have done more than any other candidate in this race to take on lobbyists — and won. They have not funded my campaign, they will not get a job in my White House, and they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I am president.”

— Barack Obama, Speech in Des Moines, IA, November 10, 2007

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics /


Hillary Clinton has fought poverty in some meaningful ways, but it is not her life's work.
Obama has been fighting poverty as a community activist since 1983: it is his life's work.

“I'm in this race for the same reason that I fought for jobs for the jobless and hope for the hopeless on the streets of Chicago; for the same reason I fought for justice and equality as a civil rights lawyer; for the same reason that I fought for Illinois families for over a decade… That's why I'm running, Democrats — to keep the American Dream alive for those who still hunger for opportunity, who still thirst for equality.”

— Barack Obama, Speech in Des Moines, IA, November 10, 2007

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/poverty /


Aren't these issues what John Edwards' campaign were all about?


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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:40 PM
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12. Aaaah, scorpios are such backstabbers
That tells me soooooo much about Hillary. She will be a horrible horrible president, create havoc everywhere she goes. We are in for so much trouble if we elect her.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:57 PM
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16. I didn't know she is a scorpio....
SNAP!

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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:38 AM
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17. And her name adds up to a lot more then Obama's
Hillary Rodham Clinton = 231

Barack Hussein Obama = 163
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