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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:02 PM
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Dan Abrams calls the media on Hill Bias Now on MSNBC
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:04 PM
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1. Abrams is partial to Clintons. His cousin is Elliot Abrams and Bill was generous
to all Poppy Bush's operatives on IranContra when he took office. That was one big lump under the oval office rug.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Surely you remember that, eh?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:20 PM
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3. He's related to that scumsucking bottom-dwelling traitor, Elliot Abrams?
And he didn't change his name?
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:24 PM
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5. You forgot "treasonous bastard" Elliot Abrams
That fucker should be rotting in prison for his covert bullshit in Nicaragua ALONE, not to mention god-knows-what-else he's done.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:30 PM
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6. Key point man for BFEE. They should ALL have been in jail by end of 1994
and instead we were turning Congress over to the GOP.

THAT is what was has been wrong for the last FIFTEEN YEARS.

THAT is why secrecy and privilege are KILLING our nation.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

THAT is why a Bush2 was even possible.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:31 PM
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8. A member of PNAC for one. nt
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:31 PM
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7. I'm watching it too
and Dan thinks it's unfair of the press to dog Bill Clinton. I thought it was a nephew to Abraham's. Also why don't you just admit that you are bad mouthing Hillary and Bill because you think Obama is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Dan is sticking up for Hillary getting slammed by the press and you don't like that, being an Obamaite. Aside from that, Clinton did not pardon the Iran/contra gang, Poppy did that before he left office. Being a troublemaker doesn't become you.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:37 PM
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12. There were outsanding matters to be dealt with in IranContra when Bill took office
and he even says in his book that he didn't pursue them so Poppy Bush could retire peacefully.

I know the story like the back of my hand - and BTW, Marc Rich was also a named figure in IranContra and in BCCI - who pardoned him and fed gullible Democrats the line that he was just a tax evader?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:32 PM
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10. Where did you get that Elliot Abrams is his cousin?
Abrams is a common name.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:38 PM
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15. Same Abrams.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:49 PM
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17. But did you read that they're cousins someplace? NT
NT
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:04 PM
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19. Yeah - like over ten years ago when Dan first popped up.
Obviously his dad, Floyd, is wellknown for his work, but few people connect him to Elliot.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:47 PM
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20. OK, I found that they're second cousins.
Floyd Abrams, First Amendment attorney, is father to Dan and first cousin to Elliot.

http://www.observer.com/node/53036

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:23 AM
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21. Imagine being a very young man and having a cousin working in the WH
and you're just bursting with pride........and then....the evil John Kerry comes along and uncovers crimes being committed by your family hero.

Funny, how Dan could never find anything good to say about Kerry during 2003-4 and never denounced the Blatant lies of the Swifts while finding much to denounce from the Obama camp.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:35 PM
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11. Guess what? Prior MSNBC commentator Ron Reagan Jr...
...had Ronald Reagan as his FATHER. I guess we know which side he was partial to. NOT.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:38 PM
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13. You mean that old guy that Poppy Bush was manipulating at every turn? ;)
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:04 PM
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2. Very heated discussion! nt
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:22 PM
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4. If he did that and made Tweety Exhibit #1, Russert Exhibit #2,
and Andrea Mitchell and Nora O'Donnell exhibits 3&4 he surely would be credible. But if he is using hosts from competing broadcasters for his argument he's just blowing smoke.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:32 PM
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9. And none of his guests really bought into it
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:38 PM
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14. Good. Im amazed that all Dems aren't angry about this, and what was done to
our other candidates in the campaign.

But hey...as long as your candidate looks good, it's not bad, right? :eyes:

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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:39 PM
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16. seems like they all pulled back today...writig on the wall?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:56 PM
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18. It's about time!
:kick:
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