Holy Moley....(Bill Clinton in Denver)

A disruptor is screaming at the top of his lungs about 911 being an inside job and that he, Clinton, caused 911. Clinton went into Dr. Phil mode and basically eviscerated the bald-headed gentleman. Then the crowd took matters into their own hands and shut down the screamer.

We have become a sad vestige of our former selves.

By the way, Obama was in Denver this morning and the scenes from the rally looked like the the ones normally reserved for a U2 concert. I guess we're supporting a rock star this year.

Sad.

our candidates are exciting the electorate. Why is that sad?

What kind of sense does that make?

...bullshit and feel goodeness. Rall said it correctly the other day, the only reason why there's so much "excitement" is because a woman and an African American are viable candidates.

If that's the case, as Rall said, we should nominate Condi Rice.

(Oh, I'm going to vote the Democratic ticket straight down, because the alternative sickens me even more).

Time to step down off your high horse.

...what is wrong with that?

Should they be voting for someone who makes them feel bad?


I agree.... Obama is the "feel good" candidate..... and by inference, the others are "feel not as good" candidates.

I am a 43-year-old woman, who is voting for Obama--because I thoroughly researched all
of the candidates--and I liked Obama's policies and I was impressed with his
experience and background.

I am so tired of the media and people like you---suggesting that Obama supporters are
groupie, cheerleader-types who are only mesmerized by his speeches and voting for
him because of race.

Give it up!

It's so insulting. I attended plenty of Obama rallies in Iowa and I also attended my caucus.
There were people of all ages at those events. Race wasn't even a factor in Iowa. It was
barely discussed. Some people (including select members of the media) make it a central
issue, so that means that his supporters are hyperfocused on those factors--because they
say we are???

Please stop this drivel.

Rall = Edwards?

....http://www.tedrall.com

....overflow crowd of 10,000 showed up to see Obama today.

4,500 showed up to see Clinton.... in the <i>same</i> city.



All the momentum and energy is on the Obama side.... check out the Gallup trend line:

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Hillary's been losing a point per day and Obama's been gaining a point per day over the past 10 days or so.


The Clintons are getting scared.

...please let me know your candidate's position is on the following:

1. His proposed energy policy includes funding for cellulose-based alternative energy fuel, but without any consideration for the depletion of foodstock that this would entail. Given his position, why hasn't he considered aquatic-based alternative fuel sources as a suitable and viable method?

2. After reading all the applicable position papers on his web site, nowhere does he address the crumbling transportation infrastructure with regards to rail, surface, pipeline, shipping or aviation. What is his position, if known, on addressing this national concern?

If you come to this party with bullshit, I'll shovel it back into the barn.

Why don't you tell your candidate to ask those questions Obama at the debate tomorrow night.... and then wonder why your candidate lost another 5% in the polls the next day.

It's just what all the undecideds want to hear... a policy paper. That's why C-SPAN's ratings are through the roof...

:eyes:

Tell ya what, Chief. Why don't you tell me what Hillary's answers to those questions are first. I'm having trouble sleeping tonight, and I need some help with that.

Because you don't know. You just "hope" everything turns out OK. Tell you what, pal, hope is not a method. Sweet dreams.

I have all the answers from Obama on the issues I care about....

You might as well ask me what Obama's position is on the DH in baseball.... Don't know... don't care.

You can't digest cellulose unless you are a termite. (Are you a termite?) The cellulose could be gotten from waste such as corn cobs or wood chips, or from weed crops like switchgrass, which can be grown in places too barren for food crops. You are thinking of corn-derived ethanol, which is indeed a stupid idea.

Has he addressed biodiesel made with algae or any of the other promising research out there? I don't know. Why don't you write his campaign and ask them to tell you? The same for transportation infrastructure, although I'm guessing all the candidates are against crumbling infrastructure. Do you need a position paper to tell you that?

...not Bono.

um...JFK?

Our questionable taste in personalities has helped us lose 7 of the last 10 elections.

Lots of Democrats like 'em cold, I guess.

that the people who make up the base of this party would rather have a guy get up at a lecturn and read a laundry list of issues and recite the party platform rather than inspire and motivate.


And people wonder why there's a generational gap in this party. The young people see what the old have become so used to.

this ran in the NYT magazine a while back:

==After the consecutive presidential losses of Al Gore and John Kerry, patrician candidates who ran ill-fitting “people versus the powerful” campaigns designed for them by the consultant Bob Shrum, many Democrats began to suspect that part of what was wrong with the party was its formulaic consultants. The party has suffered, Axelrod says, from a “Wizard of Oz syndrome among Washington political consultants who tend to come to candidates and say: I have the stone tablets! You do what I say, and you will get elected. And they fit their candidates into their rubric.”

Axelrod’s is a less grand, postideological approach, and his campaigns are rooted less in issues than in the particulars of his candidate’s life. For him, running campaigns hitched to personality rather than ideology is a way of reclaiming fleeting authenticity. It is also, more and more, the way of the Democratic Party. Its 2006 Congressional campaign strategy — run by Axelrod’s close friend Emanuel, with the Chicago consultant acting as principal sounding board — did not depend on any great idea of where the party ought to go, like the last political cataclysm, Newt Gingrich’s 1994 House “revolution.” As they have reclaimed power, the Democrats have done so not by moving appreciably to the left or the right; rather, they have done so by allowing their candidates to move in both directions at once. “What David is basically doing — and this is somewhat new for Democrats — isn’t trying to figure out how to sell policies,” says the Democratic media consultant Saul Shorr. “It’s a matter of personality. How do we sell leadership?”==

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/magazine/01axelrod.t.html?pagewanted=1

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..at a political rally and say "Sad".

Geez. What in the hell is wrong with this country?

You mock the Clinton saboteur, but you wallow when Americans
care about politics?

Are you that much of a cynic?

Hordes of Americans--young and old--who are enthusiastic about politics is something
to be excited about. I mean, for the first time in so long---Democrats are out
voting. No one has to drive them to the polls or call them 10 times to remind them
what voting is a privilege. They're coming out in droves to listen to the candidates
speak and caucus for them.

It's thrilling! It's about time!!!

It certainly isn't "sad".

:shrug:

...another one of the vigilant supporters who are obsessed with bullshit, who'd of thunk.

You should be praising him for that.

And come on board.



Obama 08

I don't see a whole heck of a lot of people getting inspired to become chemical engineers to help solve the energy and environmental crisises we face. I don't see a whole heck of a lot of people getting inspired to reconsider their law careers to become teachers in inner city schools. And I don't see a whole heck of a lot of people becoming inspired to do anything except hoot and holler over bullshit to see their candidate do one thing, get elected.

My vote is going to whoever is at the top of the Democratic ticket, but that doesn't mean I'm impressed or inspired by them. I'm inspired by my daughter writing poetry or my son doing an inlocate on rings, not by con artists who use rhetoric about change and hope when that means nothing.

Feh.

He was on one of the planes. Due to his super duper awesomeness, he survived.
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