Why I'm going to continue to vote for John Edwards on Feb 5

He is out....so he needs to let go and not sabotage the system. If Edwards "minions" continue this deviant behavior, I will voice my concerns of Edwards having a cult leader mentality.

This is not a f__king dictatorship yet.

go whine someplace else

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not addressing the core issue of corporate malfeasance and power.

The system is already sabotaged, in case you didn't notice.

stick it to the corporate media - vote John Edwards on Feb 5 Super Tuesday

Have a great day.

:)

"so he needs to let go and not sabotage the system" It's "the system" that I FEAR and DESPISE MOST!!! Damned if I'll kowtow to The System!!!! That's for those of a pachydermal persuasion!

about the system? the corporate stranglehold on this country?

Do you see any of the other two talking about it?

Here, I'll show you who the corporate media system supports:

We must , we must fight on and be sure we have a democrat Congress and Senate, look what Clinton did for the nation with both houses republican, I will sure like to see what Hillary, will do when both houses are democratic

to be in the same profession as someone with this horribly disgusting attitude.

Well I guess all of these Edwards supporters... sorry... minions... I want to be as accurate in the characterization as possible... had better just watch their pints and quarts, eh?

Wherefore? Else thee shalt unleash upon the earth and the firmament, a torrent of caustic script, and to the knave Edwards specifically, regards to cult leadership, thou shalt say, with honest and grave conviction, j'accuse!

Wouldst though be so formidable? Or wouldst thine horrific verbiage falleth upon the ears of the deaf? Methinks yon Edwards minions shant be quaking in their boots.

Good Morrow.

You act as if you don't care if we support your candidate or not. But when McCain wins, you'll be the first to whine that it is our fault. We tried to warn you but you are afraid to support a progressive. No you will stick to the corporatist sponsored status quo candidates and berate us.

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to vote for him on Tuesday. I don't agree with several things you say, but it looks like you've thought it through and arrived at the best decision for you.

from you Cali, knowing who you support, very decent . Thanks

egregious bashing.

The DLC doesn't want a real primary, its cheaper to have a coronation. Go ahead and vote for Edwards, it won't hurt anyone. The corporate bigwigs will have another meeting soon and narrow the field on their own.

I do find it humorous that everyone who criticized Edwards for having so little support are now worried about Edwards supporters are going to vote. Gee, I thought we were insignificant.

From Irrelevant to Relevant overnight! Now THAT'S power!

and who are these people demanding we vote for their candidate? who said? as the saying goes... "you're not the boss of me!" my ballot for je is on its way as i type - if it's not already there. i will not be dissuaded.

EDWARDS DEMOCRAT!!

There may be a couple of differences, but I prefer Hillary on half of those differences (health care, fighting against anti-consumer tort legislation, etc.) and prefer Obama on the other half of those issues (Kyl-Lieberman, tax cuts for the wealthy, etc.).

It's a complete wash between Obama and Hillary.

think what Hillary can do if we elect both houses democrat

has gone to the right wing. So far right that there is not that much difference
between the republicans and democrats today. At least 15 or more dems vote with
the republicans.

This dem party is not the dem party that it was, with Pelosai and Reid cooperating with the republicans even though dems are now th majority. To me that means America has one party - and it's not the democratic party

The United States of America has been forced into a steady decline over the last 28 years. It has been a deliberate move of corporatists attempting to forever destroy the American Middle Class. One of two names has appeared on every Presidential ballot in those 28 years.

Bush or Clinton.

Not Obama. Not Edwards either, of course. But John gave up this fight when he couldn't win his own home state. I have a great deal of respect for Senator Edwards, and I would love to see him as Attorney General in the new administration, going after the corporations exactly as he said he would.

That's not going to be possible as long as a Bush or a Clinton occupies the White House.

NT

from that state.
So unless you think he'll still get 15% where you live, you are throwing your vote away in terms of delegate selection.
You'd still be sending a message by upping his popular vote total, but that's about it.

SC was an anomoly bcz it became a black vote thing

At the turn of the century when people demanded change from the corrupt corporate government, there was a Progressive mood in the country. They didn't win the Presidency but did influence policy with unions, etc.

We badly need that now. This administration is worse than the Hoover, Wilson one because they have destroyed our wealth and power.

I prefer not to give it up voluntarily.

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;) :(

to uphold his fight on poverty

the fight on poverty is not the whole issue. MORE IMPORTANT is taking back America from the corporations which Clinton refused in debate - and Obama double
talked the issue - so what did he say- where does he stand - who knows

Like John said - do you think the lobbyists and corporations gave you that money
and they dont want anything in return?

dont forget over 100 million ++++ both Clinton and Obama each

And it would have to be in an administration which would allow him to act on it. And that's not going to be any administration with a Bush or Clinton in it.

I'm not saying there's any deal between the Edwards and Obama camps, and I'd have no way of knowing. But it's obvious that the AG position would be a much better fit for John than Vice President, given his fight against corporatism.

Republicans steal the election. Pelosi and Cubbs Jones stopped the election count and declared Bush the winner before fraud was investigated and all the votes counted.

I doubt Clark would have allowed that since he's not a coward or traitor.

for illegal immigrants(Chinese, Hispanic,...actually from all over the world).

If Edwards had campaigned he might have beat Obama and Hillary. He quit before it.

That's exactly what you should do. :-)

He has my vote regardless.

The rest of the country can flip the coin.

people will be angry enuf to realize the media is choosing our candidates
and there will be a backlash

The candidates are decided before they get to your state. My state of Illinois is the same now.

We have to have the primary on the same day not four or five states deciding it for the rest.

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I guess since we never turned in the sigs we were gathering to get him on the ballot, we'll have to write him in on 4.22 but that's what I fully intend to do.

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they dont, you can always write in Edwards for the Generl Election - they definitely have write in then.

We just kicked off the petitions to have his name put on the ballot on the night of the 22nd.

I can't see the campaign paying the state fee even if they already have the required signatures.

Pa. wasn't gong to have his name on the ballot...and he's been campaigning for a year?

pretty unbelievable

Not that they counted it or anything. LOL!

If they don't care which of the other two win, there's absolutely no reason not to do this.

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:kick: for John Edwards

broker with our votes for him and more delegates that the other two want.
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If we can't keep 15% undecided, we will caucus with Obama and be delegates to the county convention.

why its important to keep him voted in to extract promise from the other two
for election reform, single payer and so on as is in the header?

The Nebraska caucuses will only offer the two major candidates and uncommitted. There is no private ballot, only those 3 groups.

you can write in definitely even on the electronic machines,

or if paper ballot no problem writing in.

You'd vote for Clinton or Obama...I'd really like for you to vote for Clinton ;) but it's your right to vote for who you will. I see your vote will be your statement and your voice...and your right. I'd rather you make a statement than sit at home. Just hope we get your vote in November.

rethuglicans.

We already have that and look at what it got us on the Supreme Court - a right wing supreme court.

If progressives want to meld with the republicans, that's their business, but I wont be one of them.

For Feb 5 still voting Edwards to give him the power

For the general election a write in of Edwards/Gore

It's your voice to be heard

but I am sure Edwards and Gore would want you to vote for whoever is the Democratic Candidate is. When Dean got frustrated in 2004 and almost left the party, it was Gore who told him to stay and support the democrats. It was Gore that told him that things weren't perfect but we were democrats and we need to stand together. Trust me...Al Gore is my hero and my heart will never heal for him not winning 2000, but he's right about the democrats sticking together and hell or high water...In November The Democrats Are Going To Win It All!!

It makes more sense to opt for whichever candidate will - in your mind - be most likely to carry out the Edwards agenda. I'm hoping John will endorse someone before Tuesday. If he does I hope you'll take that into consideration.

the power to continue influencing the election.

Will I vote for either of the two - highly unlikely.

I'm not a progressive, which has come to mean centrist in DC

I'm a liberal which means populist: For The People

and neither of those two are as long as they are glomming corporate contributions

you might want. Like it or not, come Tuesday the likely candidate will be known. Your nonvote for either of them will mean absolutely nothing. That's why I wish John would get behind someone before Tuesday, but apparently he isn't going to.

use as a wedge for them to restore America the way John would, or as close as can be expected. Plus John's a lawyer - don't think he'll just take their word
for it....always get it in writing. :)

ummm... it's MY vote and i shall decide how to make it. once made it is neither wasted or thrown away. it's MY vote to make as i please. hopefully others will have joined me, but that's what voting is, isn't it?

EDWARDS DEMOCRAT

that's where taking back America starts

is to vote for John Edwards in the primary February 5, and the Dem candidate in the GE.

Neither Obama or Clinton has done a significant thing to earn my vote since Edwards dropped out.

Even if Edwards delegates are not counted for some reason at the convention, my ballot will be

counted in the tally of those who wanted real change in this country. And that means a great deal

to me.

it is a message.

Then I can proudly display them when I make my vote. I also have convinced my brother to vote Edwards too.

here's the graph of how much publicity on all media Edwards received in all of 2007





more graphs and purposeful badmouthing of Edwards for his anti-corporate stance.

It'll be interesting to see if Edwards buys a newspaper or a tv station to continue getting his message out - as Gore did.

Better yet, I wonder if Edwards and Gore will throw in together.

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and sending him money to run for President? Not to mention the hours listening to all the debates, etc.

and the candidates.

Would you have not listened to the debates anyway?

I sent money too. The feds and the corporate media screwed him by not matching
his funds til March and the corporate media by not featuring him even after he won debates.

You can't run a campaign without the funds and since he's not taking corporate
money he's not collecting millions like the other two.



This is how the corporate media and corporate control over this country picked your candidates for you

even if he didn't have money to campaign. The "liberal states" have no say.

Pennsylvania doesn't vote in the primary until April. That has to stop.

All states should have a say in the primary candidate for President.

Am I being too "democratic" Democratic Party?

the rotten media is reporting Obama's people are after John in a big way.

The more people who continue voting for John in the primaries, the more power John has to elicit guarantee from whoever he does give delegates to that they will uphold his issues -

continuing to vote for John Edwards in the primaries gives him power, leverage
over the platform of the democrats.

SEE?

and personally I will write in his name in the General Election also, you never know...if enough people do, we could have a winner and not just a brokered election.

But if you want to write in Gravel, you should do that. His name wont be on in the primaries but you can write his name in at the general election

WRITE IN then go with Kucinich or Gore. Let's show then where we STAND!

you still have to think about electability and
Edwards/Gore is very electable.

I wonder if Gore is going to get angry enough to speak out?

I TAKE THIS AS SANCTIONING OUR GOAL TO GARNER VOTES AND DELEGATES FOR JOHN EDWARDS ON FEB 5

WE NEED JOHN EDWARDS AND HIS IDEAS AND DECENCY

IT NOT OVER TIL ITS OVER AND ITS NOT OVER FOR JOHN AND US

for whomever you wish.

People on this board are a bit presumptious thinking you should support their candidate.

Tell them to fuck off!

This is how the corporate media and corporate control over this country picked your candidates for you

why not just vote in the Republican primary?

someone has taken the post from DU

VOTE FOR JOHN E ON FEB 5- GIVE HIM THE POWER

and posted it on John's site, the campaign has put it up on front page, open mike
so I take that as positive sanction by the campaign for our efforts to get John more votes and delegates on Feb 5

I'm hoping for Edwards as a VP or as Atty Gen.

I cried, I got over it. I want change and Obama is the natural slide for me.


Am I disappointed? Yes
Am I a realist? Yes.


In a shitty system I will do what I must'


PS - my sig line is still open for 'a light'.

he has my vote on Feb 5

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According to Randi, since he has left the race, no votes for Edwards will be counted, so obviously he could NOT accrue delegates on the 5th. Can anyone verify or refute this? I'd really like to know.

I just called my County Clerk's office in NJ and was told they have not received a letter of withdrawal from his campaign which means he is still on the ballot. So in that case I will vote for him. And if it is not counted regardless of whether he is in it or not, it only proves that we do not live in a Democracy.

But during yesterday's show, she was adamant that any votes for Edwards would get "tossed." She seems certain that the votes won't count towards delegates.

Perhaps it's a state-by-state thing?

(I'm not trying to start a fight. I'd just like to know for sure.)

which is why her comment led me to believe she was just saying that because she supports one of the other two and wants to discourage people from exercising their right to vote for anyone else.

that was what i thought which makes me sooooooooo sad that even one of the most progressive voices on air would be so insidious as to spread false information to her trusting listeners (how often does she say how everything everything everything on her show is completely vetted?). ugh - politics. nasty business.

EDWARDS DEMOCRAT

i wrote to her yesterday pleading with her to do her research (which she claims to ALWAYS do) and retract her erroneous statements as many times as she made them. it's only fair. i think she's being disingenuous trying to push her audience to o or h which makes me a little sad because i generally agree with her on most topics. ah well. but she's wrong. go to je's official site and you will see many responses from bloggers on same subject. spread the word. RANDI IS WRONG!!

here's my email to randi...

randi...

i am a devoted listener and an enthusiastic cheerleader, and have been for many years; however... with all due respect, your repeated claim that voting for john edwards in the upcoming primaries would be throwing our votes away - that the ballots would be useless and tossed - is wrong. edwards has NOT dropped out - he has suspended his campaign and can still garner delegates as long as he meets a 15% threshhold. you are doing a HUGE disservice to your loyal listeners, who also have a right to vote for the candidate of their choice, by making that erroneous claim. i urge you, in fairness, to please thoroughly research this and correct it for those folks who do not have access to the internet and only have you and air america hosts as their progressive political informants. i still love you, randi, but on this i, and all the other edwards supporters AND lovers of you - the goddess of radio - implore you to make this correction as many times as you claimed the votes would not count. thank you and love you muchly (y'know, as much as a person can of a virtual stranger!)

a diehard edwards democrat from california
peace

EDWARDS DEMOCRAT

Edwards will be written in if he's not on the selection. It's my protest.