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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:38 PM
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Breaking: Thread Actually Discussing the ISSUES!
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 03:00 PM by rinsd
Now that I have your attention :evilgrin:

For those who want to discuss the differences between Hillary & Obama dealing with actual issues instead of whose friends are slimier, whose was mean first and basically a bunch of crap that ultimately isn't all that important, here are some threads for you.

Now most of us who have been here in primary fight mode since Jan 2007 know this stuff backwards and forwards but some on here may not be aware of this information. So please be helpful in these threads to those seeking information.

I did these threads using the candidates' websites. I of course have not covered every subject but I figured this was varied enough to be a good start.

Threads by subject matter

Iraq - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4312889&mesg_id=4312889

Healthcare - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4314312&mesg_id=4314312

Energy/Environment/Global Warming - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4313066&mesg_id=4313066

Education - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4312966&mesg_id=4312966

Immigration - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4313604&mesg_id=4313604

Rural community - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4313660&mesg_id=4313660

Veterans - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4313736&mesg_id=4313736



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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:45 PM
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1. McCain looks to have the Nomination all but locked up, and these "fucknuts" continue to snip
Now that John Edwards is out, my wish is that our nominee becomes clear on Feb 5th. Its time for the circular firing squad to be put to bed, and its time for us to get about the business of kickin the snot out of McCain.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:47 PM
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2. After Feb 5th mother load, the next big chunks are finished by early March.
It should definitely be decided by then.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:51 PM
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3. I'm hoping its settled by Feb 5th
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:52 PM
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4. For my own sanity and the sanity of GDP?
I hope so too.

:toast:
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:56 PM
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7. Don't See It Happening...
The idiots are going to participate in this childish bickering until McCain will walk into the WH. It's too bad.

-P
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:00 PM
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5. .
:kick:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:52 PM
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6. .
:kick:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:06 PM
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8. Keeping it kicked
In the name of informed supporters everywhere.

:thumbsup:
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:09 PM
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9. K & R
good luck. It seems that most here are more interested in childish tit for tat bullshit.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:20 PM
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10. Follow the gourd, no, Hold up the sandal! nt
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:28 PM
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11. Some sites that might help if you want more condensed versions
http://www.ontheissues.org/Candidates.htm

http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008/comparethem.html

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/

But good for you for posting the detailed policies. Check out voting records and campaign financing too.

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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:57 PM
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12. Project vote smart is very handy as well as opensecrets
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:20 PM
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13. K&R!
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:02 PM
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14. I'd like to stick to issues
but none of these threads help at all.

In relation to Iraq I want all the candidates to spell out exactly how they would have reacted to Saddam's trading Iraqi oil in Euro's? If they claim that they would not have gone to war - what DO they claim they would have done to prevent the US economy being seriously gouged?

Would they perhaps have taken the usual Democrat approach and simply help install another dictator while supplying handy lists of Saddam loyalists and Communists to kill?

In relation to health care I want them to explain why the US can not have a national health system in which profit isn't a factor, why is the US so unique that it must pay 4 times as much for a lousy "service"

In relation to foreign affairs I want to know why only in the US are the occupied territories NOT considered illegal & why they beleive the third world should support the world's richest nation

In relation to crime I want them to explain what they will do to stop prison being a profit industry and what they plan on doing about the criminalisation of an entire ethnic group

I don't think for a second that I'll get answers I want to hear from any Democrat anytime soon.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:39 PM
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15. One last weekend kick
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