The biggest reason to vote for Obama is that his campaign is best

Clinton was way up against him, and now it's her who's struggling to come back. Most people see Obama as having the momentum, and the real suspense is whether he'll have enough momentum to do better than expected on 2/5. His campaign has managed to spin things, use race, use sexism, use homophobia, been negative, while at the same time Obama's image is beautifully preserved for its lofty ideals. But, that's who Obama is. He is an idealist, and his voting record shows it. But he knows enough to let his campaign play the game, and right now they are better at it than the Clintons. The Clintons are using an in-your-face Rovian model, while Obama's campaign is far more subtle, but just as nasty. (I think Hillary Clinton adopts the recommendations of her strategists, while in the Obama campaign, the strategists adapt to Obama's behavior.)

Obama's idealism and lofty rhetoric seem to work well enough for him to be the figurehead of this campaign. In that way, he's sort of like Bush. Obama at some level seems a little shallow and inexperienced, while Bush at some level seemed stupid. The Republicans handled the stupidity issue by tricking the Democrats into setting such low expectation for Bush that he appeared to do well in every debate. Obama's campaign will have to come up with a similar solution for his inexperience. But as far as his shallowness, you need to look no further than Bush and Reagan to realize the American people like shallow. The American people like it simple. Hell, words like Unity, Change, and Hope are even simpler than Reagan's Family Values, Small Government, and Low Taxes. And no one is better than Obama at making those shallow themes resonate!

As candidates, Hillary is at least as good and maybe even better (simply because of her specific experience and knowledge of how Washington works), but her campaign is poor. If she should eek out a victory and win the nomination, the only way she'll win the White House is to fire her campaign staff and hire Obama's. The brain behind Obama's campaign, whoever that is, is the new Rove. It's amazing that Obama is doing so well.

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If that chart was the meme, then Hillary Clinton would have the better campaign. But the fact is that Obama's campaign has managed to make Hillary the bad guy, while he still appears above it all. The Clinton campaign is failing, not Hillary.

The Press is counting on it. They hate Hillary.

--p!

running the meanest campaign I've seen in my lifetme, and
getting away scott free.

without the dutiful help of the M$M.

Obama has run a vicious campaign, and he hasn't been held accountable for it.

The OP thinks this is a good reason to support Obama. He (or she) is probably right. It's a great way to win elections.

The OP is probably right, but I'm not going to be ready to embrace that ideology any time soon. I'm still grieving Edwards and repelled by the others.

I guess those voters didn't get the "Obama's better campaign" meme.

What ever he tells you his "enemies" are up to...bet your ass..that is exactly what HE is up to... reverse everything ...Believe the Opposite! AND...Obama PROMISED to run a different style campaign...BRING CHANGE...LOL! He has brought HATE! AND he thrives on the media trying to paint the Clinton's as Racist! What a horrible man...He knew the whole time this was dividing our party...and yet... it is more important that HE WIN at any cost! "BUSH LIKE" ALL the way!!!! He has not yet been honest about Rezko/Rezmar/Davis/Michelle's affiliation with CFR...He has NOT released his records of 8 YEARS from Chicago..which has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH REZKO!!!

Obama is a dangerous man! Rezko has ties with Dangerous people! And NOBODY supporting Obama really cares...THAT"S SICK...Just like BUSH Supporters...Hence The State of our UNION!

of course he 'attacks' as well.

seeing hope and building a future has nothing to do with rolling over to have your belly scratched (sorry, i just got a new puppy!)



Obama is right to criticize Clinton(s). Thats kind of the point of running, right? He does not agree with her being the best choice?

rather than a link, especially since you obviously didn't even read my thread.

Typical quotes:

"Obama says sometimes 'he can't tell' if he's running against Hillary or President Clinton"
"Obama tells Hillary, 'Truthfulness during campaigns makes a difference.'"

It just makes the Clinton campaign look hyperbolic.

like the chart?

says just don't rise to the level of the hype. Of course, your opinion may be different than mine. You may be hideously offended by these comments, which to me sound like typical campaign back-and-forth. :shrug:

Some of us are still on dial-up.

I don't like Hillary or Obama.

The Clinton triangulation strategy has neutered the Dem Party

Obama is too Liebermanesque for me and I can not trust him. Obama's strategy is actually Clinton-lite.

Ugh! None of the Dem Prez candidates this year got me excited about the race this year.

that's gonna change very soon. They loved dean once, and for about 5 seconds, Kerry.
Pitt calls this a trial - but it was a coronation - before any vote was cast:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/121003A.shtml

The Clinton campaign did a great job with the snub and the New Hampshire tears, for instance.

Obama: 47% positive, 16% negative.
Clinton: 27% positive, 38% negative.
McCain: 12% positive, 48% negative
Giuliani: 28% positive, 37% negative
JDNE

Net numbers

Obama +31
Giuliani -9
Clinton -11
McCain -36

For me, the bottom line is I want a Democrat. I don't give a rats ass if it's Clinton or Obama, but the ineffective campaign that the Clintons have run so far tells me they won't be able to beat the Republicans. Look at how much ground she's lost to Obama already.

The reasons to vote for him are that his positions are best, his ideas are best, he is best.

... on the issues. Clinton a little more progressive on a few issues and Obama is a little more progressive on a few issues, but overall, from a policy standpoint, they're both very similar. The main thing, I think, is that Obama has a better campaign so he is the better candidate. He has a better chance of winning than Clinton does.