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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:37 PM
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A dozen reasons why one Edwards supporter is backing Obama
From daily kos:

1. The Iraq war: Obviously, invading Iraq remains the most damaging single action of the Bush era. Obama spoke out against it at a public rally while Clinton was echoing Bush's talking points and voting for it. Obama's current advisors also consistently opposed the war, while Clinton's consistently supported it. It's appropriate that Clinton jumped to her feet to clap when Bush said in his recent State of the Union address that there was "no doubt" that "the surge is working."

2. Clinton's Iran vote: The Kyl-Lieberman bill gave the Bush administration so wide an opening for war that Jim Webb called it "Dick Cheney's fondest pipe dream." Hillary voted for it. Obama and Edwards opposed it.

3. The youth vote: If a Party attracts new voters for their first few elections, they tend to stick for the rest of their lives. Obama is doing this on a level unseen in decades. By tearing down the candidate who inspires them, Clinton will so embitter many young voters they'll stay home.

4.Hope matters: When people join movements to realize raised hopes, our nation has a chance of changing. When they damp their hopes, as Clinton suggests, it doesn't. Like Edwards, Obama has helped people feel they can participate in a powerful transformative narrative. That's something to embrace, not mock.

5. Follow the money: All the candidates have some problematic donors—it's the system--but Hillary's the only one with money from Rupert Murdoch. Edwards and Obama refused money from lobbyists. Clinton claimed they were just citizens speaking out, and held a massive fundraising dinner with homeland security lobbyists. Obama spearheaded a public financing bill in the Illinois legislature, while Clinton had to be shamed by a full-page Common Cause ad in the Des Moines Register to join Obama and Edwards in taking that stand.

6. John McCain: If McCain is indeed the Republican nominee, than as Frank Rich brilliantly points out, he's perfectly primed to run as the war hero with independence, maturity and integrity, against the reckless, corrupt and utterly polarizing Clintons. Never mind that McCain's integrity and independence is largely a media myth (think the Charles Keating scandal and his craven embrace of Bush in 2004), but Bill and Hillary heralding their two-for-one White House return will energize and unite an otherwise ambivalent and fractured Republican base.

7. Mark Penn: Clinton's chief strategist, Mark Penn, runs a PR firm that prepped the Blackwater CEO for his recent congressional testimony, is aggressively involved in anti-union efforts, and has represented villains from the Argentine military junta and Philip Morris to Union Carbide after the 1984 Bhopal disaster.

8. Sleazy campaigning: Hillary stayed on the ballot in Michigan after Edwards and Obama pulled their names, then audaciously said the delegates she won unopposed should count retroactively. She, Bill and their surrogates have conducted a politics of personal attack that begins to echo Karl Rove, from distorting Obama's position on Iraq and abortion choice, to dancing out surrogates to imply that the Republicans will tar him as a drug user.

9. NAFTA: Hillary can't have it both ways in stoking nostalgia for Bill. NAFTA damaged lives and communities and widened America's economic divides. Edwards spoke out powerfully against it. Clinton now claims the agreement needs to be modified, but her husband staked all his political capital in ramming it through, helping to hollow out America's economy and split the Democratic Party for the 1994 Gingrich sweep.

10. Widening the circle: Obviously Obama spurs massive enthusiasm in the young and in the African-American community. I'm also impressed at the range of people turning out to support his campaign. At a Seattle rally I attended, the volunteer state campaign chair had started as Perot activist. The founding coordinator in the state's second-largest county, a white female Iraq war vet, voted for Bush in 2000 and written in Colin Powell in 2004 before becoming outraged about Iraq "I've always leaned conservative," she said, "but Obama's announcement speech moved me to tears. The Audacity of Hope made me rethink my beliefs. He inspires me with his honesty and integrity." As well as inspiring plenty of progressive activists, Obama is engaging people who haven't come near progressive electoral politics in years.

11. The story we tell: Obama captures people with a narrative about where he wants to take America. His personal story is powerful, but he keeps the emphasis on the ordinary citizens who need to take action to make change. Clinton, in contrast, focuses largely on her personal story, her presumed strengths and travails. Except for the symbolism of having a woman president, it's a recipe that downplays the possibility of common action for change.

12. Citizen movements matter: Edwards not only ran for president, but worked to build a citizen movement capable of working for change whatever his candidacy's outcome. Obama has taken a similar approach, beginning when he first organized low-income Chicago communities and coordinated a still-legendary voter registration drive. His speeches consciously encourage his supporters to join together and constitute a force equivalent to the abolitionist, union, suffrage, and civil rights movements. Like Edwards, he's working to build a movement capable of pushing his policies through the political resistance he will face (and probably of pushing him too if he fails to lead with enough courage). In this context, Clinton's LBJ/Martin Luther King comparison, and her dismissal of the power of words to inspire people, is all too revealing. She really does believe change comes from knowing how to work the insider levers of power. Edwards and Obama know it takes more.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/31/124418/149/483/446991
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Clintonite Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:00 PM
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1. I counted maybe 3 good reasons. But good luck to you & Obama.
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557188 Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:03 PM
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2. Indeed
A lot of these were the dumbest reasons ever to support a candidate.

Pick Obama, if you want, but do it for practical reasons.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:14 PM
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3. Ummm...I don't think Obama showed up for the Kyl-Lieberman vote
Has he not also continued to vote to FUND the war?

I'm not fond of HRC, but I'm having a hard time seeing my way to Obama either for both of these reasons. Refutation? Did I miss something?

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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:14 PM
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4. Two Hillary suppoers with low post counts don't like these eh?
How about:

13. She is a member of the DLC and will bring the DLC into the WH with her. The same organization that gave us Will Marshall the PNAC signatory, scuttled the efforts of Howard Dean, Al Gore, and John Kerry. Consistently votes against progressive principles and sides with Republicans while bashing members of their own party. When you vote for Hillary...you vote for the DLC to have the mantle of power in the party for another generation to come.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:23 PM
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5. This post says it all. Rec'd and bookmarked to kick for posterity! n/t
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:24 PM
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6. k&r. nm
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:26 PM
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7. This is pretty much what I am hearing....
Overall, Edwards populist message resonates more with Obama than it does with Clinton. She cannot for the life of her shed that entrenched, DLC business-as-usual image. Maybe because it's so true.
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