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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 08:42 AM
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McCain fails to shoot down rumors of being VP
Edited on Wed Mar-10-04 08:48 AM by BrentTaylor
On Good Morning America when asked today would he entertain being Kerry's VP. He said " Kerry is a good friend of mine and I would certainly entertain it. But I see no scenario in which that would Happen"

Look for this to have more legs.

I personally don't think his stances on Abortion, etc would fly to well with most democrats. And I also think this is dangerous because it may make his endorsement of the chimp to mean more.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 08:45 AM
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1. just heard the same on CSPAN
McCain is probably just messing with the bushies for all the hell they put him through the last election.
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Bronco69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 08:47 AM
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2. A republican by any other name......
If McCain would adopt the democratic platform and change his party affiliation I might entertain the notion, but until then he's still a republican, so, beware!
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:58 AM
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13. even if he became a dem he'd be another zel miller..who needs that?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:58 PM
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24. He already is another Zel Miller with some of his positions
You are right. We don't need that. But it is good that he did not rule it out. It shows his respect for Kerry. He did do us a favor. Can't deny that.

Don

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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 08:56 AM
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3. Most likely means nothing much
Might be a tweak at Bush to get something out of him. The only danger to Kerry would be if Kerry publicly courted McCain, and then McCain used that as an opportunity to turn Kerry down and back Bush.

I trust McCain enough that in the unlikely case he did become our VP nominee that I believe he would be an effective anti Bush campaigner. He would not mess with John Kerry. If he became Kerry's running mate he would walk the walk and talk the talk.

Because those two men know each other well, if both Johns went for it I would back it strongly. McCain is not a young man, unless something happened to Kerry it would not set McCain up for a shot at President. I would look at it like this. We may regain control of Congress if McCain is out there stumping for Democrats along with Kerry. That said, I agree with McCain. This is not something I see happening.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:06 AM
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4. I wan't to know who is behind this effort to push John McCain on the Dem.
Ticket. I saw the C-Span comments and came here to do a post about this.

I've seen this possiblity being shopped around here on DU. I can't imagine anyone thinking that a Repuglican and Democrat on the same ticket is possible. This has to be a Repug effort to just disrupt and sidetrack Democrats once again. Make the issue "McCain for VP" instead of focusing on who we are as Democrats.

I'm sure John Kerry wouldn't dream of having McCain on his ticket so why does it keep getting shopped around? :shrug:



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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:14 AM
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5. I would certainly hope not.
I'm not voting for a rethug on ANY ticket. Not to mention it would be a perfect reason to "get rid of" a certain someone, if ya get my drift.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:15 AM
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6. It might just be the media not having enough to talk about
With 24 hour news and no real Primary races to speak of, any slant can get air time. Or maybe something less wholesome is up. People just love to speculate though, here, there and everywhere. The more far fetched the better it seems at times. My only real point is, I will go out on a limb enough to say, that I trust McCain's integrity and friendship with Kerry enough that I don't see him as a dishonorable player in a pre conceived plot.

Obviously McCain would have to leave the Republican party, at the very least declare himself an Independent, for anything this far fetched to even be remotely possible. I don't see it happening. I was surprised by McCain's reply though. Maybe it was a sort of personal compliment to Kerry, out of friendship and respect, that McCain said he would take such an offer seriously enough to entertain it. Who really knows?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:09 AM
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15. kind of like the Hillary for pres talk that kept happening
it gets media attention and probably gets people's interest and therefore higher ratings. and mccain's answer is really not surprising considering he is good friends with kerry and hates bush.remember the republican primary ?
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:16 AM
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7. On the face of it sounds intriguing
But a deeper look shows it isn't a real possibility. McCain is not right in the head and mostly Right in his ideals. I heard him speak several times lately and he appears loosely hinged and not really VP material. I'd run from the idea of him anywhere near our party.

BUT! He would definetly blunt the "too Liberal" Repug attack on the ticket.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:55 AM
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8. I'm torn on this...
feel free to chime in too because I can't be the only one that thinks this way...

In a way I kind of wish that we could end the partisan bickering and work for the greater good of both sides. While I agree that social programs should not be cut any deeper and we should not be forcing our military into wars we have no business being in, I do agree with balancing budgets and not projecting heaping amounts of debt onto future generations.

I think that McCain covers a lot of centrist conservatives and would make them feel a lot better about this country as we would with a fairly liberal Democrat in office who will bring the world community back together, repeal tax cuts, work to bring jobs back to our country, and will fight hard for our environmental rights.

There's a part of me that wants to dogfight for every Liberal issue always until we get our way, but honestly the country will never move completely to the left or even as far as it did to the right (we don't have the financial backers or media resources to do it).

McCain is good because he nearly ensures us a landslide victory but also because for the first time in years the country could heal it's deep partisan wounds. MOST Republicans are not far right hacks that wish to be an empirical force in the World and wish to force the poverty level and homeless Americans back into prisons or poorhouses like in the Charles Dickens books...

In a way I kind of think this would make everyone happy, it would fulfill the spirit of America where we work together to make the country a better place for everyone and not just for the wealthy...

Or at least that is what my wish of that pipedream would be.

I do wish we could be more cordial with our counterparts and even moreso they with us and I do wish we could be working together to make our country as great as it once was. The bitter divide has been an awful blemish on our society and I can assure you there are a lot of voters who hope Kerry can bring the country back together.

A part of me wonders if this would do the trick.

Rp
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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:18 AM
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9. It's lose-lose
Repubs won't vote for a ticket just because McCain's on it, they would consider him a traitor (I remember a few years ago the Freeps were out demonstrating when Daschle came to McCain's ranch)

And as for Deomcrats, all of the sudden Nader's line about the two parties being the same starts to make a lot more sense.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:23 AM
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10. Just remember that Freepers
are not representative of the Republican Party at-large, let alone the centrists and moderate-conservatives we'd be targeting if we nominated McCain.

I think its a bad idea if only for the fact that John McCain's a right-wing Republican, but there's little doubt that it would ensure a landslide victory.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:35 AM
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11. NO way it happens
Edited on Wed Mar-10-04 10:35 AM by BrentTaylor
This upsets a big part of Kerry's base. McCain's stance on Abortion will not go over with women and most Democrats. I think its a terrible suggestion. Also he can forget Dean's backing with this type of move. If anything it drives people to Ralph Nadar. If McCain wants to help Kerry run as an independent.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:58 AM
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12. McCain's ideological support for free trade upsets me (n/t)
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:03 AM
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14. that's because mccain would like to be vp for kerry
Edited on Wed Mar-10-04 11:03 AM by JI7
and he hopes to be asked.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 04:36 PM
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26. Kick.
:kick:
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:12 AM
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16. If it were to happen,
expect 10% for Nader, and I don't want to hear any whining about it. McCain would be a disastrous choice.

How many Democrats are there? And none of them would make a better choice than a Republican?

But it won't happen.
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Monument Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:59 AM
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17. THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN A....
...public "leak" meant to flatter the center right.

No way could/would Kerry be able to choose McCain. However, by leaking this information (and yes, it IS a leak), Kerry gets to appear to be courting the center right, and hopes to seek acceptance from McCain supporters.

Kerry will also "leak" other names which are meant to flatter various groups.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:10 PM
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18. You are probably correct on that. Pandering can be clever, as long as it
doesn't seem deceitful, though. If this is calculated on Kerry's part, for every McCain support crossover he could lose someone who would be very upset that he would appear to support McCain.

Calculated risk? Could backfire.
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Monument Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:22 PM
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20. understood, but
...this kind of information is never "officially" spoken about by Kerry, so if there is a backlash, he can say "well, it didn't come from me". Right now it's all conjecture and rumor.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:45 PM
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23. Yes. Clever. Who knows, maybe we need "clever" to get Bush out,
because of the way they operate. Still, pushing McCain just seems very chancy if you care about your Dem base. I mean not the "Corporate Dem Base," but what used to be the "Dem Base." ;-)
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:10 PM
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19. Unbelievable - McCain is either messing with us, really naive, or......
there is someting to it. Whatever it is, the Bushbots are undoubtably pissed about this, which is a good thing.
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:26 PM
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21. Was this a "West Wing" story thread at one point? (eoq)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:32 PM
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22. Aye! Yi! Yi!
McCain's been stumping for Bushie boy. This is plum crazy talk. BUT wouldn't be a hoot if McCain dumped Bush and endorsed Kerry?
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TheStateChief Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 02:29 PM
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25. What If Kerry Picks McCain and Then Kerry Has To Drop Out For Health?
Do we then rally around Republican John McCain as our standard-bearer? I think people really need to think this scenario through and realize that there is no way that it would happen (nor should we want it to happen).
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