Bad timing on the part of the swiftvets against Kerry.

Initially it seemed that they were going to be comrades of Kerry's from his swift boat days, who felt he was not really a war hero. Then it turns out the group consists of men who formerly praised Kerry as a great leader and a man of high character and others who have been after Kerry on Nixon's behalf and now Bush's for Kerry's claims that atrocities took place in Vietnam. They are trying to say that he is unfit for the commander-in-chief job because of his claims and post-Vietnam protests.

Well how could they have known that this abuse scandal would break and make it seem ridiculous for them to attack Kerry for saying that atrocities happen in war?

The whole thing seems ridiculous at this point. Bad timing.

Texas woman that organized the smear campaign against John McCain.

medals and if he deserved them while we are being told daily that Tillman posthumously received the silver star and remind everyone that it is the highest honor you can receive.

We are to think of Tillman as hero for his gallant effort but Kerry doesn't count?

For the record, I think they both deserve the hero status.

This inquiring mind would like to know - if it was his CO Roy Hoffman (then Capt., now RearAdm - Ret.) then this "swiftvets" group already has shit in their mouths.

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http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:fZdcX7V5QU4J:www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0404.perry.html+roy+hoffman+brinkley&hl=en

"In charge of the campaign, dubbed Operation Sealords, was a figure straight out of Catch-22, Capt. Roy Hoffman. According to Brinkley, Hoffman "sought to convince his Swift boat skippers to do whatever it took to notch splashy victories in the Mekong Delta and thereby get him promoted." Up until Hoffman's arrival, Swift boat crews had broken the monotony of routine offshore patrols by dashing up the Mekong Delta distributaries, in areas swarming with Viet Cong, with guns blazing, just for sport. To Hoffman, it was a lot more than that--seeing in such theatrical operations his path to success and glory, he made those hell-for-leather dashes the key part of the little boats' mission.

Kerry came almost immediately to understand--as did almost everybody assigned to the Swift boats--that there was no point to these mad runs. The boats had no armor to protect them from enemy fire. They were accompanied by no infantry, save for occasional Navy SEALs hitching rides. Without infantry support, there was no chance of occupying Viet Cong territory or running down significant numbers of VC soldiers. The boats' engines were so noisy that when the wind was right they could be heard coming from three miles away, and, perhaps for that reason, had enormous trouble running down junks and sampans infiltrating weapons to the enemy. "For anyone wanting to smuggle contraband, we actually made the task easier," Kerry confided in his journal. "All they had to do was hide in a mangrove or in a small canal until we had passed by." The fact is, Kerry confessed, in all the time he served in his two Swift boats in Vietnam, he and his men never tracked down any contraband--not so much as a single rifle cartridge. "

saying that "Kerry made indecisive manouvers with the craft, and placed the ship in dangerous positions". Something like that.

Funny, I bet the same guy thought "We Were Soldiers" was great because Mel Gibson's character kept his troops there to bring back every member, dead or alive. Kerry went back to "bring back every member" - ALIVE.