"Dump Kerry" movement growing

A Kerry-Worrying Trend
Is It Too Soon to Panic? Evidently Not.
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, May 10, 2004; Page C01

"John Kerry Must Go."

That Village Voice headline may be a tad dramatic, but stories about disaffected Democrats are spreading like wildfire through the media forest.

Never mind that the Massachusetts senator is just about even with an incumbent president six months before the election. The naysayers are seizing the spotlight.

"There's definitely a Beltway maelstrom," says Democratic strategist Jenny Backus. "There are a whole bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks who live in Washington and feed a lot of these reporters. People use the press as a giant instant-message board."

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Some Democrats are "pretty freaked out" by Kerry, says the New York Post. They see "a listless and message-less mishmash," says Newsweek. The man "has something of a gift for the toxic sound bite," says Time.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13083-2004May9.html

You know how much the GOP is going to bank on this story...

For Bush to highlight this story would be risky. It essentially says that the Democratic nominee is running such an incompetent campaign that leading Democrats are thinking of taking the unprecedented step of trying to get him to give up the nomination...and the incumbent president is still only tied with this supposedly-incompetent candidate???

:wtf:

As a non-Kerry admirer, I could see a case for trying to "dump" him...if July came around and he was trailing Bush by 30% or so and dropping like a stone. But, at this date, I don't see much reason to start sweating.

OTOH, I agree that Kerry's campaign after clinching the Democratic nomination hasn't been great so far, and it needs to start clicking soon. If it had been firing on all cylinders over the past month or two, with all the disastrous news for the administration, I would expect Kerry to have a substantial double-digit lead...and the talk would be about Republicans wondering whether or not to "dump Bush"...

Get over it.

I can't stand listening to John Kerry.

I dislike Hillary Clinton, but I listen to her and she makes sense. I could be enthusiastic for her.

I dislike Biden's views on Iraq, but he is a leader who is willing to stake out positions. I could be okay with him.

I even like listening to Hagel better than Kerry lately. And McCain is earning my respect, especially with his excellent questions on the torture scandal.

Kerry is a wandering mess of a speaker. When my colleagues at work listen to him they start laughing, because of his damned equivocation and unwillingness to answer the question. It is plain humiliating to know that this guy is supposed to be my leader.

I want a leader I can follow, but I don't know where the hell Kerry is trying to lead me.

If he can't take advantage of Bush's ineptness on Iraq he can't take advantage of anything. And YES I am mad. He should be beating Bush like a drum and he is not.

Its way to early to start doing all of the stuff people are complaining he is not doing.

Which is why he won the nonmination, and why Dean lost. Dean gave away too much, too early, and put a great big sign on his own back that said "Kick Me" to the media. Dean simply said TOO much TOO early, all of it contradictiory and dependent on which group he was speaking to. It gave a lot of people pause, and the media losts of time to make the public aware of the inconsistancies. They cant do that to Kerry until he starts doing that. Kerry has consistantly told people exactly what he plans to do as president, but because he does not do so like a cheerleader, no one listens. Good. Let the media focus every bit of negative atttention on Bush. Let them do so until a few weeks befroe the election. And then see Kerry come out.

Any good prosecutor knows you do not even begin to start making your case until every last bit of evidence is available. The same people who are complaining that he didnt say much about what was going on during the 9/11 hearing would have had him complaining befire the events revolving around the abuse of Iraqi prisoners occured. And now they would have him shooting off before whatever events are going to occur as a result of the hadnover of power at the end of june. Bush's ratingg continually going down with NO effort on Kerry's part. Support for Bush going down with NO effort on Kerry's part. When Bush finally reaches his lowest, THEN Kerry will be their to diliver the final cut, at a time when Bush will not be able to rise again.

he has a LOT more to worry about than I thought.

Dena was talking one think about health care, and medicare, and social security, but his past record was filled with inconsistancies, and so the media was able to point them out WELL before anyone cast a vote. Gave the bulk of people who were not devoted to Dean, but to finding a candidate who would address their needs, to decide that this candidate was not Dean. His statements on raising the Social Security age, as well as his statements about putting the SOcial Security trust fund and Medicare on the table for cuts gave a lot of people pause, to the point that Dean was only left with the support of his original core of supporters, and the rest of registered democrats decided that Dean wasnt the person to look after their interests. Exit polls in Iowa proved this, ad when asked, Iowa voters stated that very clearly. Many thought Dean was goingto make them work longer before retireing, and redice wht they retired on. Since more people rely on Social Security alone than have pensions to add to their retirement, many saw Dean as a threat to their future. Dean simply gave it all away, early enough for people to not support him.

Dean's biggest mistake WAS revealing his position on media conglomeration.

The SS information you refer to was WAY before the primary season, and twisted by his opponents. The voters believed the distortion, I guess.

IIUC you were saying that Kerry wasn't going to make the same *mistake* Dean did by revealing his positions early on. That strikes me as Bogus.

Maybe I misunderstood.

http://www.johnkerry.com/videos/console.php?video=042304_women

That was an excellent speech straight from the heart.

_

I understand that you would rather it the other way, but this is unhelpful.

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People care. Get over it.

I will NOT be assimilated :grr:

our hearts and minds. For many of us the only reason we are still a part of the democratic party is because of Howard Dean.

Get over THAT.

do not run when its time to jump, because you may definately fall, this is a neocon strategy, I'm surprised that no one sees this, you are dealing with criminals that'll do anything to hang on. Dem's watchout.

Bush is so far out in the weeds right now that he may never reach the green by November, so Howie Kurtz takes some disaffection with Kerry and transposes it into widespread movement.

Nice try, Howie. Ask Bill Weld how this campaign is likely to turn out....

nutbakk seriously anymore?

Oh, I know, 'cause he says what nutballs want to hear.

:eyes:

What if these people had been in charge at this time in 1992? Bill Clinton was in third place to the real President Bush and a mentally unstable Texas billionaire.

The press had the same stories about Bill Clinton in 1992, how he didn't have a "message," etc. Democrats appear to have short memories. Kerry is in great shape if you at this from a historical perspective.

Although I preferred almost anybody else to Kerry, he is better than Bush. What else are we supposed to do? We can't just dump Kerry now. It's too late. We have to support him.

Kerry is electable. Democrats didn't want someone with a message. We didn't want someone "scary" or "unelectable" or someone with a pulse. We wanted good old safe, reliable, no-message, bonesman, elitist Kerry. Why? Because he's so gosh darn electable.

So relax and watch what happens when Democrats pick such an electable person to be their nominee.

And just remember on November 3 how elecatble Mr. Kerry was!

;)
I have never understood how or why Kerry was any more electable than say Edwards or Clark.

I'd vote for PeeWee Herman if he had a chance of defeating George Bush,

He sure did. People might want to note that the Kurtz article quoted Ridgeway's Village Voice article that is indeed similarly titled as this one.

http://bushspeaks.com/home.asp?did=166&dir=f

. . . this is Howard Kurtz--and he (Kurtz) makes some valid points.

on edit: and they aren't even the same headlines

Its just recycled garbage quotes from pundits that hate Democrats. Did you even read it?

He's been a GWB/corporate media apologist for far too long.

No wonder Slate blogger Mickey Kaus has started a "Dem Panic Watch." Consider:

"Kerry Struggling to Find a Theme, Democrats Fear," says the New York Times.

"It's six months until the election, and Democrats are already having buyer's remorse," says John Fund of OpinionJournal.com.

"Democratic leaders fear he's getting 'Gored,' " says the Associated Press.

"The Trouble Is, So Far Kerry Stinks on TV," says the New York Observer.

Some Democrats are "pretty freaked out" by Kerry, says the New York Post. They see "a listless and message-less mishmash," says Newsweek. The man "has something of a gift for the toxic sound bite," says Time.
...

Obviously anyone who actually READS the editorial will discover Kurtz is not ditto-ing these stories.
I know it's a lot to expect that anyone will actually READ the referenced site.

Does that make you feel better about him?

http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/003852.html

Kurtz is a whore fro the Republicans. Period.

of Dean's "media downfall".

I do recall Deanies warning supporters of other candidates that it COULD it WOULD happen to their guy...

So excuse me if I am not shocked.

Go away Ridgeway.

:crazy:

Kerry is culpable in the Iraqmire fiasco, and somebody with judgement that poor just should not be our nominee. Kerry must by necessity be wishy-washy on the war, since it's his baby too, and this presents the country with an image of weakness at the head of the democratic party. Not only that, in spite of kerry's war record and pro-Iraq war vote, Bush is still beating him hands down on national security issues. Who needs that? At least with Dean or Clark we could have some principled opposition to the war, and give the country a picture of strength and decisiveness representing the democratic party.

In your very own imaginary world, right? Let me ask you a question. In your own world, is Nader beginning to look good and Bush is ever so dashing even Dean couldn't beat him? Just wondering.

http://bushspeaks.com/home.asp?did=166&dir=f

. . . and as a matter of fact, Nader IS looking not that bad.
So go ahead, flame me--Kerry needs to EARN my vote. I CAN sit it out.

I don't even know you.

http://bushspeaks.com/home.asp?did=166&dir=f

No one will sign his ballot petition. Of course losers could always write-in if they know how.

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hello, that means idolizing myself. you apparently think that valuing my vote is some kind of sappy ego-trip.
no, I'd like to be able to somehow idolize or at least admire my presidential candidate.
why the quotes on "earn"--you think the country "owes" Kerry their votes without him having to work for them? just because Bush represents the bottomless pit of hell?

as a matter of fact, because Bush IS so awful, I am FORCED to vote for Kerry--and I resent that. he hasn't shown me much of anything.

They are tied overall, but bush has a significant lead in the 'war on terror' and national security in general. that's not my imagination honey, but perhaps you are imagining that your flip-flopping war-monger is not a flip-flopping war-monger. Have fun getting shipped off to Iraq-Nam if kerry wins.

Kerry voted for the Iraq War as a LAST RESORT.

Kerry voted to authorize military force on Iraq ONLY if the president built a coalition and let UN inspectors do their job.

Kerry did NOT support this unilateral war that Bush pushed.

Polls mean SHIT The fact that Kerry is neck in neck overall it seems is deadly for Bush not for Kerry, especially given so early in the game when Kerry doesn't even have a running mate!

Think about this for a moment, Bush has come at Kerry with everyine he's got and he can't even make a dent. Kerry hasn't even unleased a salvo of what he is truly capable of yet because he's saving his "bombs" for the end of the fight like a smart fighter does.

stating in the amendment that"Kerry voted to authorize military force on Iraq ONLY if the president built a coalition and let UN inspectors do their job. I looked back a few weeks ago on the details of the vote and who voted what and when and that's not what I say Kerry voting. I am just curious how do you know this about his vote?

http://forum.johnkerry.com/index.php?showtopic=12625

Let me be clear: I am voting to give this authority to the President for one reason and one reason only: to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction if we cannot accomplish that objective through new tough weapons inspections. In giving the President this authority, I expect him to fulfill the commitments he has made to the American people in recent days - to work with the United Nations Security Council to adopt a new resolution setting out "tough, immediate" inspections requirements and to "act with our allies at our side" if we have to disarm Saddam Hussein by force.

If he fails to do so, I will be the first to speak out. If we do go to war with Iraq, it is imperative that we do so in concert with others in the international community. The Administration has come to recognize this as has our closet ally, Prime Minister Tony Blair in Britain. The Administration may not be in the habit of building coalitions, but that is what they need to do - and it is what can be done. If we go it alone without reason, we risk inflaming an entire region and breeding a new generation of terrorists, a new cadre of anti-American zealots - and we will be less secure, not more secure, at the end of the day, even with Saddam Hussein disarmed. Let there be no doubt or confusion as to where I stand: I will support a multilateral effort to disarm Iraq by force, if we have exhausted all other options. But I cannot - and will not - support a unilateral, US war against Iraq unless the threat is imminent and no multilateral effort is possible.

before going to war. Hell, he was already shipping the troops and equipment over there while the negotiating was going on. Did kerry seriously think Bush was going to pull the troops back if the UN didn't sign his war permission slip? Not only that but kerry made cracks about wimps like Dean "giving the UN control over US national security," which of course was BS, but the implication was that he would never do that, and now you (and Kerry) are saying he did exactly that.

Notice that there is not one Democrat cited. Gosh,I guess the media whores are really desperate. The $75 million smear has flopprd,crashed and burned. Gong! Gong! battle stations! This coward won't even post his Email.

Now I'm curious.

His wife does PR for Republicans.

There was a time, not so long ago, when he was actually a fair, qualified critic of the media.

He's been sold and happily whores for the worst in the White House and the worst in journalism.

largely on his shoulders:

http://archive.scripting.com/cats/Politics/Presidential%20Election%20of%202004/Dean%20Campaign

I think it's disingenuous for any leftist to be quoting Kurtz.

are nothing but right wing propoganda. Period. Our world is changing weekly, and yet people feel he's not rising to the occasion? Nuts. The occasion is in November, and in November we may have invaded another country, or entirely pulled out of Iraq. In November, we may have experience another terrorist attack. In November, we may have experienced a change in British leadership and a withdrawl of British support. What, exactly, is it that people want Kerry to say today, in his currently powerless capacity? If he says we must leave Iraq, and we experience a terrorist attack by Iraqis this time, he'd have to switch his position, giving great strength to Bush* politically.

My suggestion is to ignore these calls for a different candidate. The primary is over. Think of the near future, and how to affect change. Think of convincing friends to vote...just vote. Think of how we are going to manage to change the course of history this year, because, if we don't, our children's future is in jeapordy. More war. More death. More raping. More insanity. Worse economical problems. More class division. Worse schools. More risk of future attacks on the US.

Think clearly. Sleep well. Eat well. And, work hard to make the future for ourselves.

Keo

The organization is recruiting a "Kerry Core" who are people who will take early responsibilities in their local areas.

https://contribute2.johnkerry.com/kerrycore/

It should read: From the desk of Karl Rove by way of Howard Kurtz. Another right wing hack doing Rove's bidding.

who runs a right wing consulting firm. Howies one big huge conflict!

The Repukes are just into their Hillary fantasy. Either that or they want to belive Kerry is in a weak posistion in order to boost their egos.

Kerry is in trouble, it must be true. Oh, and the NY Post, too. We're doomed. Name one Democrat we could have nominated who wouldn't be getting crap from the likes of Kurtz.

//sarcasm off

:eyes:

Kerry will not be dumped and he is doing fine. This crap IS just right wing propaganda. That said, the consistent need for anti-Deanies to trash him when Dean himself and many of his supporters are working for Kerry is insulting and divisive.

They should call it the, "Let's Get Bush Elected So We Can Have Trillions of Dollars Added to the National Debt and a Destroyed Environment to Pass On to Our Children" movement!

But ill vote for him.

Id vote for a monkey before shrub...or maybe a cat or dog or cow.
lol.

I hope kerry realises he has alot of supporters just because of the simple fact of his party and him being the only alternative.


so to sum it up, me and alot of other people think Kerry is a joke. Washed up. shakey voting records. extremely wealthy(i mean my god, his homes worth more than SHRUBS!).

Yes, there are difference between bush and kerry for sure, but I still think we coulda picked a better guy.

I just get so bored watching Kerry speak, hes a bore, I usually turn the channel to find some other democratic on TV.

oh well tho, what can ya do?
he'll have my vote.

Not going to happen!

I gotta say I love my Dems, but we are easy to fool. We get a honest to god hero running on our ticket and he is tied with a popluar war time president in the polls by doing almost nothing while he campaigns and we are running around believing Repubs that we should Dump Kerry to save our souls. It all reminds me of the dodo birds in "Ice Age".

I've heard him calling for corporate tax-cuts, he says very little about most of the issues that concern the populist segment of the population. I can't say I've been influenced by too many articles like this, I've sort of become a bit disinterested in the media of late. They are partially responsible for killing-off the great-white-hope of our time, Howard Dean.

Kerry is a very uninspiring candidate, and I was worried that he wouldn't really try, and I was worried about both being members of the Skull and Bones, as well as how much influence they would have over him, would they encourage him to actually lose? Certainly, finding Teresa Heinz (crossbones member-wife) falls right in with the S&B intermarrying policies of the group. Out of the 150 million women, Kerry ends up with one who has a Bones fortune? Seems odd, still.

He's hard to get excited about, no doubt. If Nader ends up messing up this election, or more correctly if a group of folks end up voting for Nader, because they find the two choices so similarly unpalatable, then it won't be them who are at fault, but Democratic voters in the primary, who listened to the corporate pentagon-fed media tell them to vote for Kerry. The choice by the Democratic voters, in effect, disenfranchises the Nader group by making the Kerry corporate choice. It is the Democratic voters who will eventually have to understand that by their choice, they can either continue to alienate this group of the actively disenfranchised, or they can choose a candidate, like Dean, who seems to appeal and reunite us all. I hope for the latter, but I suspect with the attitude of those who tell us to "get over it" being predominant, our party will continue to be split, and very centrist. That is the sad thing, and when we both compete for Republican voters, and ignore the rest, the Republicans will tend to win more of them. It's pretty simple. Broaden the party, embrace the left once again, and our problems will evaporate, our majority will be immense.

actually, it seems the whores like Kurtz, and the reporters whose stories Kurtz is trying to give legs, seem to be failing to get this crap to catch on. They've been trying pathetically to push this stuff, but it looks like Kerry is not as easy as Gore was to be "Gored."

edit: and the same goes for the people at DU who are also pushing this same crap.

I'm totally fucking shocked.

for you to breathe into. ;)

please. This is getting embarassing. (the *messages* not *you*)

//sarcasm off

Sheesh.

Kerry hasn't surged ahead of bush because he doesn't want to peak early. Remember Howard Dean (my guy)? Ted Rall was calling on Dems to cancel the primaries in Dec and anoint Dean. I guess that didn't work out. The worst thing Kerry could do is surge 20 pts ahead of bush *now.* All that would do is allow the media to paint bush as *the comeback kid* every time he gained a point or two on JK. They'd simply recycle the *buyer's remorse* line the used against Dean and apply it to Kerry.

Here's the deal: no matter how *poorly* JK appears as a campaigner, he is going to be aided by realities on the ground that are going to afflict bush right up until election day. bush's support is slowly and inexorably eroding. We as a nation are heading toward a giant case of bush fatigue that will be a full-blown epidemic by Nov.

Bush will continue to sink in the polls. Kerry will come on strong as the election nears. That's it. End of story.

BTW - I don't see any reason whatsoever to give my take on this any more or less credence than anything Howie Kurtz opines. How often is he actually correct?

.

A few statements or things he did not need to focus on, and getting some bad advice here and there was to be expected. He also seems to have some views that go along class lines that he don't get too well it seems.

Overall I would give a passing grade. I think it would be a good idea to lay in the weeds for while also. As long as the numbers can stay close the rest of us can keep hammering on this piece of crap government foisted upon us. As much as much as we dislike it, that is how it looks like it needs to work (unless your looking at that thread about civil war).

You cannot give these folks a target, this is most of their purpose for being where they are. The are hired attack dogs looking for their lunch.

You may dislike some of the stuff he is doing but just remember it's not about all getting the votes, it's also about silencing the critics on both sides with few real tangible means of doing it. Also remember what kind of people own the all these media outlets. They are desperate to find stuff on him, or to make stuff stick.

Keeping the numbers close and surging at the end, when the forces that wish to do these smears don't have time to unwind spin against should work for him. I would say don't be too critical of him and do for yourself. He is one guy and has no real power (yet).

Help keep him the middle, so * can be attacked on the right is the best strategy. If he looks like a carbon copy of bush on some things that's okay, because it is sign Bush is trying to run to the middle (it won't work, everybody knows Bush's record).

Btw. As they do attack shadows, they look petty and vindictive as an added bonus

The circular firing squad in action.

What in God's name will it take to get Democrats to stop stabbing our Democratic candidate in the back? If Bush is still in office January 2005, we will have only ourselves to blame.

This just sickens me.

to add more emphasis.

He and Nagourney are like a couple of snotty brats skulking around the playground making up lies and trying to cause a fight. What a couple of loathesome creeps.

I know there are many people in the press who are more overt in their attacks, but those two get under my skin worse than any.

as Robert Novak--and Kurtz has yet to commit treason, unless I'm misinformed..

Polls show democratic voters solidly behind Kerry. This is bullshit.

Maybe. Karl must just be overjoyed at Kurtz displaying his turncoat colors.

Never happen.

"piffle". I agree entirely.

I'm not exactly brimming with pleasure over Kerry, but he is going to be the nominee, like it or not. That doesn't mean we shouldn't urge him toward more progressive/populist positions-- we owe it to him and the party to keep him true to our party's long-standing values.

However, the last people I'd trust on this issue are a bunch of flaming neo-cons and hacks like Howie Kurtz. He's shown his worth in the past, and continues to prove it day by day.

Piffle, indeed.

John Kerry's Ass, meet blowtorch.

Totally correct! Even after we win in November, we still have a LOT of work to do!

:hi:

Anything But Complacency

There is a reason it is gaining strength. Once again, our Democratic candidate was chosen for us. And many of us have decided to not vote for the lesser evil again.

One person and only one person caused the creation of this movement - Kerry. All he gives the left, is that he is not whistle ass. That is not enough.

Since you don't know what you're talking about (Bush*'s numbers are going down while Kerry's are going up), I'll ignore your (and Howeenie Kurt's) kind warnings.

seems to be made up of mostly republicans from what i can see. gotta wonder about those who claim to be democrats.

there sure is a whole lotta turd stirring going on here today. i think i will go visit bartcop to regain my wa.

Where does your "seems" come from?

The people I am hearing it from, are all Dem activists that are disappointed that our presumpitive nominee was appointed for us.

As I said before - ignore us at your own peril. You don't want to listen to us? Fine, then don't expect our votes.

You seem to think we were counting on it.

:crazy:

So why should I even care?

populate another message board - full of Dean sore losers and DU member bashing.

They populate the real world. From my dentist, to social workers, to small business owners, to fishermen, to farmers that I speak and do activist work w/in my state.

This weekend we will be having our yearly caucus. I am sure I will be hearing from more there.

"...full of Dean sore losers and DU member bashing."

Who's doing the bashing of DU members?

ANYONE can say their dentist, social worker... blah blah...

but does everyone tell the truth?

If you don't care to hear what people in real life are saying, that's fine. Just don't come back and say you weren't warned.

If a candidate I cared about was getting so many negative comments, I would try to let him/her know. No, I would make sure he/her knew so that they could correct how they were coming across to every day people.

But, that's called communication, something Kerry hasn't or doesn't want to learn.

And I'll leave it at that.

I'm so relieved, no more hiding in the shadows. No more dangerous secrets. The biggest and hardest step is admitting it.

May Pastiche show mercy at my tombstoning.

Moving to Freeperville now--although I'm reasonably certain THEY will think I'm a damned librul.

God, this is tiresome.

is the DLC.

I have led them boldly, I hope...

:eyes:

if some dems can't get behind the candidate that's their fucking problem. They need to get over themselves and their shitty fucking candidate (howard "yeargh" dean).

Kerry isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Howard Dean isn't magically going to have all the electoral votes necessary to win the nomination. He was a flash in the pan. Move on people! Kerry won the nomination months ago! Mourning time is officially fucking over. Get behind the candidate or sit on your ass, but don't come complaining when Bush wins and then blame it on Kerry's campaign. YOU are the one that sat on your ass. Not Kerry or the millions that will turn out for him in November.

:cry: <--------cry baby dems living in a dream world!

Well, I am, but that's only because I can not stand up.

Where I am pouring all of my energy, is into races for progressive Dems in the Senate and House.

If we want our progressive issues to be heard and our progressive bills to be passed, we must take over both houses.

Now that will make a difference!

Kerry will not.

have fun blaming Howard Dean and his supporters while the country crumbles. That'll fix EVERYTHING.

Scapegoat:
1. One that is made to bear the blame of others.
2. Bible. A live goat over whose head Aaron confessed all the sins of the children of Israel on the Day of Atonement. The goat, symbolically bearing their sins, was then sent into the wilderness.

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Dean lost - and this is what we get from his supporters...

Conspiracy theories that the primaries were rigged...
Continuous Dem bashing ...

SORE LOSERS. Yeah... LOSERS!

...being referred to as a "loser" by an admitted DLC operative. :eyes:

:eyes:

Remember, three presidential wins...

Certain sore loser Dean supporters - LOSERS!

This could explain why they see Sen.John Kerry as a threat..especially if Kerry someday has the power of the Presidency at his disposal.

In the background I can see a team of people like Ted Kennedy working out the details of the demise of GWBush and friends..

If you haven't read this posting..please arm yourself with the information..We'll be wiser for it when Bush is pulled apart like dogs on a prisoner.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1568810

Rove certainly has his hands full lately..

chose to line up behind Kerry. They KNOW what he knows and that he has a strong grasp on the overall picture as well as the details.

We all wish our own first choice was the choice, but the more I learn about Kerry, the more impressed I am.

Kerry won the primaries, it's over with (yes I know there is still some states left to vote but Kerry has the delegates)and now time to get him elected!

God, he makes me ill.

puke controlled media hit piece.

Kerry wasn't my first choice, but I think he's doing just fine. It sounds like the pukes are getting really worried and trying to sow doubt and dissention among the Democrats.

just a bunch of freaked out DUers and any others who are still sore that Kerry beat their favorite candidate.

I was lurking over at the place-which-can-not-be-named, and I saw where YOU just about wet yourself over your discovery of this "movement" It is no movement, but instead, the whining of a handful of infantile shits who can not accept that they did not get their way (and who are willing to cite Howie Freakin' Kurtz to bolster their nonsense) Unbelievable!

BTW: The JR is fascinating right now. What happened? Are the animals in "the refuge of sanity" turning on one another? :)

absolute power corrupts absolutely
Lord Acton

The party is going to get sooooo angry, that at the convention they will overturn the results of the primaries, to give the nomination (according to some) to Howard Dean or Dennis Kucinich. :eyes:

Sorry people, the primaries were held fairly and according to the rules, Kerry won them. While he wasn't my pick, he was the first choice of those that turned out at the polls.

Kerry's the nominee, and is the ONLY SINGLE PERSON that can beat Bush at this point. End of story.

There's a place for all of us in a Kerry administration. There's NO place for us in a Bush administration.

Kerry isn't my first choice.
Kerry isn't my second choice.
But Kerry is my ONLY choice in this election.

We cannot sustain another four years of destructive Bush Administration Neocon Policies....

Get with the program folks and quit arguing!:spank:

Its about bashing Kerry. It isn't even consistent. It rambles
and rolls and uses what ever dribble it can come up with in an attempt to be a readable article. Truth or non-biased journalism
was not a consideration before or during the making of that crap. Lets write them and let them know what we think of this kind of
lip service. :grr:

There are a few hardcore asshats like that whore Kurts, and that's about the size of said 'movement'. This article is PURE HORSESHIT, just like the 'dump Gore' one he authored in 2000.:puke::grr:

But there is no "dump Kerry movement" anymore than the much touted (here) "disunity" among the Dems.

Kerry is the nominee, and I will support him along with the vast majority of registered Democrats. He's not going anywhere, so get used to it.