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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:31 PM
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Kerry's foreign policy trap
by Bill Berkowitz
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=16936

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...in a policy document entitled "Progressive Internationalism: A Democratic National Security Strategy" the DLC addresses foreign policy issues. It basically echoes the Bush Administration's foreign policy objectives, while giving lip service to the need for including other nations. The document touts the "party's tradition of muscular internationalism" and explains that it "supported the Bush administration's toppling of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan" and "backed the goal of ousting Saddam Hussein's malignant regime... because Saddam posed a grave danger to America as well as his own brutalized people, and because his blatant defiance of more than a decade's worth of United Nations Security Council resolutions was undermining both collective security and international law."

News that Bob Shrum, the long-time Democratic Party insider and close advisor to Senator Ted Kennedy -- who recently called Iraq "George Bush's Vietnam" -- will be playing a greater role in the Kerry campaign may or may not shift the candidate's foreign policy thrust. Shrum is a co-founder, along with James Carville and Stanley Greenberg, of Democracy Corps, a liberal political research group that frequently counters the DLC line.

Eliot Cohen, director of the Strategic Studies Program at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies, isn't sure there will be any policy changes. "When I look at the kinds of people who are advising Kerry, assuming Kerry runs his foreign policy from center and right of the Democratic Party, it would be very compatible with the Bush administration," Cohen told the Chronicle's Robert Collier.

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If this is true, Kerry is the Dem version of Nixon, who promised "peace with honor" but ended up escalating the war in Vietnam. Kerry's corporate cronys are of the same mold as Bush's.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:34 PM
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1. So Vietnam had no effect on him?
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:36 PM
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2. What do you mean "if it's true"? It's true.
He's even got a PNAC'er advising him. Ain't life grand.
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:37 PM
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3. No, he won't run it that way...
Edited on Wed May-12-04 01:37 PM by GainesT1958
He won't allow the messed-up situation--and our ruined standing among our erstwhile allies--go unchecked, or worse, thumb his nose at them the way Dub & Co. and the Neo-Cons have. John Kerry's foreign policy will NOT mirror the Neo-Con model in ANY way--strength can be expressed through cooperation and benevolence, not through raw, naked agression. Kerry is also not beholden to the corporate and energy shills of the Dub/Cheney machine, either. Halliburton and Bechtel will NOT have "first-preference access" to the Oval Office under a Kerry administration.

B-)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:41 PM
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4. Clinton's foreign policy was similar to the DLC's..did it resemble Bush's?
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:53 PM
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5. Kerry is not Clinton
He will be fighting those -- Dems are weak on defense -- demons that the Repukes have saddled Dems with, and that could make Kerry increase US violence in Iraq. That explains his Bush-lite foreign policy positions to-date.

And being an ex-soldier, he may consider salvaging the US military's reputation more important than what's in the best interest of the Iraqi people and the US.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 02:01 PM
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6. Yawn
Edited on Wed May-12-04 02:05 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
You always seem to have a good reason for hating him in spite of the fact that we all know you ultimately "support" him and will vote for him.

Yeah right, Kerry will pratice "brinkmanship and incompetence" lite.

You do realize one cannot rebut your speculation with facts since the future has not happened yet? Right? Is that why you so conveniently go there everytime to rip our candidate apart?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 02:23 PM
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8. Kerry isn't Shrum either
a fact you've conveniently overlooked
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 02:12 PM
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7. But DLC's policies have shifted into the NEOCON territory now!
So saying that Kerry will implement DLC's policies - which are, more or less, PNAC policies - any different from what they truly are - ie the same goals as *'s - is being deceptive to yourself.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 02:23 PM
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9. Who is saying that?
So saying that Kerry will implement DLC's policies ...

aside from Larkspur and some liberal "supporters"
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 02:27 PM
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10. Saying any of it is speculation on which anti-Kerry propagandists thrive
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