Evan Bayh... NO Republican!.. A Good Democrat

Here is the voting record and bellow is a little bit more into... please read it, i think its important people should be informed...

•Voted YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
•Voted NO on increasing penalties for drug offenses. (Nov 1999)
•Voted YES on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
•Voted YES on funding student testing instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
•Voted YES on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction. (Apr 2001)
•Voted NO on Educational Savings Accounts. (Mar 2000)
•Voted YES on declaring that memorial prayers and religious symbols at sch. (May 1999)
•Firmly opposed to Bush’s voucher proposal. (Jan 2001)
•Three R’s: $35B for Reinvestment,Reinvention,Responsibility. (Jan 2001)
•Voted YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010. (Jun 2003)
•Voted NO on defunding renewable and solar energy. (Jun 1999)
•Voted NO on confirming Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior. (Jan 2001)
•Government cannot substitute for families. (Jan 1998)
•Voted YES on restricting violent videos to minors. (May 1999)
•Give parents tools to balance work and family. (Aug 2000)
•Voted YES on enlarging NATO to include Eastern Europe. (May 2002)
•Voted YES on extending free trade to Andean nations. (May 2002)
•Voted YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam. (Oct 2001)
•Build a rule-based global trading system. (Aug 2000)
•Free & fair trade is key to economic growth . (Jan 2001)
•Voted YES on banning "soft money" contributions and restricting issue ads. (Mar 2002)
•Voted NO on require photo ID (not just signature) for voter registration. (Feb 2002)
•Voted YES on background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
•Voted NO on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
•Prevent unauthorized firearm use with "smart gun" technology. (Aug 2000)
•Voted YES on allowing importation of Rx drugs from Canada. (Jul 2002)
•Voted YES on allowing patients to sue HMOs & collect punitive damages. (Jun 2001)
•Voted NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Apr 2001)
•Voted YES on including prescription drugs under Medicare. (Jun 2000)
•Voted YES on adopting the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. (Oct 1999)
•Voted YES on allowing another round of military base closures. (May 1999)
•Voted YES on cutting nuclear weapons below START levels. (May 1999)
•Voted YES on military pay raise of 4.8%. (Feb 1999)
•Voted NO on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar 2001)
•Voted NO on killing an increase in the minimum wage. (Nov 1999)
•Voted NO on using the Social Security Surplus to fund tax reductions. (Jul 1999)
•Voted NO on Social Security Lockbox & limiting national debt. (Apr 1999)
•Create Retirement Savings Accounts. (Aug 2000)
•Voted NO on $350 billion in tax breaks over 11 years. (May 2003)
•Voted NO on cutting taxes by $1.35 trillion over 11 years. (May 2001)
•Voted YES on reducing marriage penalty instead of cutting top tax rates. (May 2001)
•Voted YES on increasing tax deductions for college tuition. (May 2001)
•Voted NO on across-the-board spending cut. (Oct 1999)
•Voted NO on $792B tax cuts. (Jul 1999)
•Supports welfare-to-work & block grants. (Jan 1998)
•Finish welfare reform by moving able recipients into jobs. (Aug 2000)

Hum…doesn’t seem like the record of a man who is little more than a GOP mole?

He is a conservative Democrat, HE IS NOT A REPUBLICAN!

He gets a UAC rating of 22 while Indiana’s Republican Senator Richard Lugar gets 79! And John Breaux gets 46 (D-LA), Mary Landrieu (D-LA) 15, Olympia Snowe 56 (R-ME), Arlen Spectre 43 (R-PA), Russ Feingold 12 (D-WI), Blanche Lincoln 22 (D-AR) and its goes on

What I am trying to convey is that Evan Bayh does not vote with the GOP very much at all, this is in response to one poster saying he voted with the GOP 80! of the Time which is utter BS quite frankly. He has been a principled moderate and has remained very loyal to the Democratic Party.

off the hook for poisoning kids with mercury, the bankruptcy bill, most of Bush's economic plan. The guys a slime.

almost every senator voted for the first patriot act and Homeland security and I can fully understand that...

...with the drug's companies thing please tell me the details, also he did not vote for most of Bush's economic plan, he has been very skeptical of many of Bush's tax cuts while he has voted for some of it, but here again many democrats have...

...I think you are being pretty intolerant...

The guy whose portrait is in my avatar.

So did my party's likely Presidential nominee.

for 911.
P.S: Lieberman v oted pretty much the same on all those bills.

...Lieberman didn't say the torture was ok, he made a badly worded statement that tried to place these acts into context...

Bayh effectively said that it was ultimately Bush's fault which was very different from what Lieberman said!

On other issues he's great though.

I didn't say he's perfect...I disagree with him on trade in a big way (I'm closer to Gephardt and Edwards) but this thread was in reaction the constant beatings he gets on this forum, he's a loyal and good moderate Democrat...

I agree with you Finch. Bayh is a good and loyal Democrat. I'm not sure that I favor him for VP though.

... a combination of lack of charisma and a dubious potential to effect the result in places like Ohio and Pennsylvania, He'd probably win WI though... I think Kerry really needs a charismatic, young, moderate populist, I can think of only two candidates John Edwards or Mark Warner...

Either would be a great choice. I do feel that national security has become so important that Clark is the best choice. Clark is moderate and I think he would have great appeal to Republican voters. I also think Clark would do well in the South and border states.

...imho Clark has no legislative background to effectively counter Kerry's liberal record, Kerry already has a war hero's record.. I feel a mildly hawkish, moderate is our best option one who can make the case in perhaps a more effective way than Kerry namely Edwards or perhaps Warner, I like Clark and all I just think he brings little as a VP candidate.

Clark can say that he would have taken moderate stands on the issues but he has never been tested. In addition electorally Edwards, I feel, would play far better with moderates and "Soccer Moms" than Clark as he showed in the primaries what is more Edwards is much better on TV and addresses Kerry's BIGGEST weakness, being dull...

Finch, it seems like this year the VP choice is just a tougher one to make than in years past.Of the ones that are seriously talked about, everyone of them has serious pros and cons. I'm glad Kerry isn't paying me big bucks to make the final decision.:)

...and I'm glad he is to salonghorn70 ;)

are definitely better than the much hyped McCain.
But for VP, I hope more. hey, for my own Senator I expect higher. I got Hillary and SCHUMER, AND I DON'T FEEL VERY PROUD. NJ DID MUCH BETTER!

Than Bayh. But other than that I think you're right.

as a democrat from INDIANA. Otherwise, he's way to conservative for my taste.

no message

That's all I need to know to know I do not want him as VP. Roe V. Wade needs to be protected. We can't risk having an anti-choice VP. What if Kerry died? No thanks to Bayh.

Bayh has really weird ears and dead eyes. Other than him being too conservative, he'll do if he's picked...which I am hoping he is not.

I think that Soccer moms have turned into Security moms and Edwards would not do better than Clark with them.

Kerry polls well with women. It's the male vote that seems to be a problem. Again, I see no advantage with having Edwards on the ticket for that. He does not poll as well with men as he does with women.

"Doesn't have a legislative record to counter Kerry's with" doesn't make sense. It's better not to have an additional legislative record to defend at all.

For either party… besides there are many different positions that can be taken on it, I for example think that abortion within the first trimester should be legal however beyond that it should only occur in extraordinary circumstances (rape, incest, health of the mother and in an instance where the child might be born with a some great abnormality), but even in the first trimester I would urge a mother carrying a healthy foetus to not have an abortion but I still believe that she should have that option in the first trimester to abort the foetus but beyond that time not unless one of the following criteria is met…

Evan Bayh is on record as having a very similar position to my own, that while he personally is opposed to abortion at any stage (except in cases of rape, incest or where the health of the mother is at risk) he still believes a woman should have the option to have an abortion in the first trimester and furthermore he believes that Roe V. Wade should be upheld.

I think that the entire abortion issue for the left is really odd when you compare the left’s usual distaste for capital punishment and pacifism… it just sticks out as very incongruous… imho

heheheh the free trade led the poor indigenous population to an armed revolt
Bolivia's Poor Proclaim Abiding Distrust of Globalization By LARRY ROHTER

Published: October 17, 2003 (NY TIMES)

A PAZ, Bolivia, Oct. 15 — The many Indian protesters who choked the streets and highways of this Andean nation again on Thursday may be poor and speak broken or accented Spanish, but they have a powerful message.

It is this: no to the export of gas and other natural resources; no to free trade with the United States; no to globalization in any form other than solidarity among the downtrodden peoples of the developing world.

The force of that message may yet topple President Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada, who tried to quell the unrest by offering a package of concessions late Wednesday night that the protesters rejected.

Instead they vowed to continue with demonstrations meant to force his government to abandon a plan to export natural gas to the United States through a port in Chile. The protests have already left more than 80 people dead over the past month.

Sensing that public support for the president, weak to begin with, has all but vanished, opponents of the gas export plan have now moved to press their advantage.

"The blood that has been spilled is something sacred," Felipe Quispe, leader of the indigenous group that initiated the protests, said in response to Mr. Sánchez de Lozada's offer, made in a televised speech. "So we can't negotiate and we're not even going to talk."
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/17/international/americas/17GLOB.html?ex=1084593600&en=818e44105b6f4880&ei=5070

He may not be the kind of representative I would choose (being from California, I feel much more comfortable with my two Senators, particularly Boxer.) but I also don't believe Democrats should be forced to toe a strict party line. Bayh has to Represent his state first, and his party second, so that means he will vote against most Democrats sometimes. But overall, he's been with us on many key issues.

while we will keep voting for him statewide... he isn't terribly popular with democrats in the state of Indiana (fyi)

btw, several weeks after hand-picked (by neo cons due to his sympaticoness in philosophy) weapons inspector came back from Iraq declaring not only were there no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but that he doubted that there had been any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq (contrary to the bushian - "they are still there"... and the rwingecho chamber "they were moved!") There was Bayh on national TV declaring that the weapons of mass destruction were still in Iraq and had yet to be found...

Keep this political opportunist - whose moderate voting record shifted to the right (which is why he has lost the "love" from many state democrats) after bush was elected in 2000 - representing Indiana (if we must... and we must... no better one in the current pipeline) - but keep him out of national leadership (that is - "NO!" for vice president!).