Randi Rhodes on VP - "Clark will NOT be VP"

Said she liked Richardson (Latino factor), and was looking at Edwards. She also believes a southern strategy is not the way to go, but that much effort must be placed on making sure black voters are not disenfranchised in the south.

Parphrasing here - "anyone from new York who doesn't believe that this still happens in the south - well, it does".

Hope you're wrong Randi - but only this one time. :)

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She is just running her mouth. It's not based on fact.

She told her opinion. I don't think that's running her mouth. A caller asked her who she thought would be VP and she answered.

The person that really knows how Clark is doing in the VP race is Kerry.

Just my thoughts.

HUH?

Clark is the right choice. We're at War and we need a Pres/VP that have been there, and know better than to make all the mistakes of the bush admin.

and FDR did a great job. The idea that we need to have a military man for VP just because of a war doesn't hold water. The American people want experience and competence more than anything. Not that Wes Clark is a bad choice for VP but I don't see the election turning on whether he is VP or not and frankly I don't see all that much sentiment for him besides Clark loyalists on DU.

FDR was the incumbent when he ran during the war (1944). It was going well. And Democrats weren't seen as weak on defense.

Oh, and for what it's worth, his VP Harry Truman had been an army officer in WWI. Not saying that's why he was selected--it wasn't. But it probably didn't hurt. It damn sure helped Truman's strength as a leader in the Korean War when he had to stand up to MacArthur.

We are diehards... just not annoyingly loud like Edwards' followers.

Don't forget, the Clarkies ran the Deanies OFF THE BOARD! You guys are rough. We Edwardians are low-key, but determined.

And I don't appreciate you trying to divide the Clark and Dean supporters.

Determined? To do what, cause problems?

I did not run any Deaniac off this board. As far as I know, most Clark supporters loved Dean and Edwards. We are not devious people, you know?

Nobody runs me off. And for the record, I thought Clark or Edwards would have made a great Vice President for Dean :)

swing state.

I keep hearing we'll turn on some "other" Veep... but... uhhhh... nope.

We, in fact, don't know what John Kerry's opinion is right now. But I can't believe he'd be making media buys in North Carolina if he's not going to at least SHOW effectively in this neck of the woods!

I just don't think Randi is either right, or correct in making the call, on this one.

B-)

how are you DB?

:hi:

So does this mean we can have a big Kerry/Clark '04 shindig at my house if she is??

Hell.Yes.

:D

it will be just that much sweeter.

I mean, look at my avatar. :) :)

I'm just taking a break from building furniture to report from AAR....

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They call it "country" furniture - don't know if that is just a regional term or not.

I build on commission, and prefer building in either the Shaker style or the Stickley ("Arts and Crafts") style. Right now I am building a Shaker step back bookcase (enclosed bottom section with interior drawers and shelves), and a top case with frame and panel glass doors. The wood is butternut, and the best part is.... it's for us to keep!!

On deck is a Shaker counter (walnut and birds-eye maple), followed by an interesting table (not yet designed) which is to contain "elements of a car."

Hmmmnnnnn.....

Didn't hear her, but this sounds like she 'likes' Richardson or Edwards, making this her wishful guess. There's a lot of those around.

Perfectly entitled, etc., and quite possibly right, but still just a guess, as opposed to inside info from Kerry camp or whatever.

I'll still wear the Randi T-shirt after she will be proven wrong on this. because she was supporting Clark when he ran.

no, Randi, say it ain't so ... :cry:

the strategy should be NATIONAL appeal (we need all indys and all repug moderates who are fed up with b*) and NATIONAL SECURITY GRAVITAS ... IMHO, this election is NOT going to be regional and it's NOT going to be boutique states ...the tag line may indeed become "it's peace AND prosperity, stupid!"

as mentioned elsewhere: Kerry/Clark: TWO heroes. ONE mission.

..sorry babe...better luck next time....

Wanna beat a bunch of chickenhawks?

Get two guys on the ticket that have a combined SIX Purple Hearts, Two Bronze Stars and Two Silver Stars....Compared to One AWOL record and FIVE deferrments...

Oh, and make sure one of them has FOUR STARS on his shoulder....;-)

GO WES GO!!!

mention that Clark says he is not interested. That's the only thing that is keeping me from becoming excited about the possibility. When have you ever known Wes Clark to NOT be sincere?

Said it so to Clarkies in LR: "Whenever they ask me about VP, I give that answer to make them stop"

That IS exciting!

But he's not stupid either. He has obviously settled on the exact words, "It doesn't interest me" and "I'm not interested in that" and other variations that involve the word "interest." It's how he answered every time until recently. Because he can say that honestly without committing one way or the other.

Clark is interested in getting Bush out of the White House. That's his only priority. It's the cause he has set aside all personal and private-sector concerns to advance. What, if any, role he'll play in a Kerry administration is NOT what interests him. Only doing what he can to help elect John Kerry.

But that doesn't mean he'll say no. Not at all. I said "until recently" above because I have noticed that, since it leaked that he's being vetted, Clark has expanded his standard "not interested" reply to include the words used by the Kerry campaign folks that "it's private," adding that he respects Kerry's process for the decision. He doesn't deny that he's being considered. It just... doesn't interest him. It's a subtle distinction, but it is honest and closes no doors.

I have no doubt that if Clark were really unwilling to accept the job, he's say so. Unless, of course, Kerry wanted him to keep the buzz going for some reason, but I can't imagine why that would be.

In truth, Clark was doing quite well in the private sector before he accepted the draft and he knows those options remain open. He'd have to start over, to some extent, but with a great deal more notariety than before. Otoh, also with no little animosity from some of his more conservative business contacts, to be sure. But somehow I don't think Clark is worried about that at all.

The VP will be Gephardt.

please be wrong. please be wrong. please be wrong.

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But let's hope not. Because it will be the final nail in Kerry's coffin if he picks that backstabbing sellout.

with Dean. Still, maybe the "deal" was Gep's endorsement.

:argh:

I can't vote for Gep. I hope to GOD that Kerry looks elsewhere, else I'm stymied.

I keep seeing visions of Gep in the rose garden with bush, signing on to kiss bush's butt at every turn.

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Wes Clark is the PERFECT VP candidate for Kerry in every way. They'd make an unbeatable team.

NOT EDWARDS NOT EDWARDS NOT EDWARDS NOT EDWARDS NOT EDWARDS, either!!!!! He sucks as a Senator, and he'd suck even worse as VP. Besides, he'd still be campaigning the whole time, rather than serving the country and getting down to business.

Clark, OTOH, would step right in and plan for the MAJOR exit from Iraq that is necessary to help move this country back in the right direction.


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I like Graham, for about a dozen reasons.

We need some energy in this ticket.

and described who he thought should be the VP and it was Wes Clark in all but name, imo. He said that the person that will be debating Cheney will need military credentials as one big issue will be Iraq and they would need gravitas as well. I kept waiting for him to name names but Al and his cohost kept interrupting him, damn. It was very interesting, nevertheless.

stopped now.

thanks for the info!

Who is Randi Rhodes?:shrug:

He was also a founding member of Quiet Riot. In fact the ONLY talented member of that band.

He peed on the Alamo.:)

spitfire she is... very good though her assertive style annoys some people.

no message

...I'd like to see someone of color or an ethnic heritage other than white bread, which is what we see in Kerry, Clark and Edwards. Not only is it boring and getting old, democrats have won because of the support minority constituents have given them.
Bottom line...put up or shut up.

Strange post in this thread. Did you see anyone fearing?

There's no better way to make sure African-Americans in the south don't feel disenfranchised than picking a hero of the Civil Rights movement for VP. The time has passed for the Democrats to keep running tickets of two white men. Kerry needs to be smart and pick someone who is from a different background than himself.

:evilgrin: One who must be enlightened!

was this based on some info she had or was she just saying what she thinks ?

for the media has been like a dog in heat, eager to know who it is...and as soon as one is picked...the coverage will turn up negative to whoever is chosen by the other side.The one sided media is good to get their views out.

I believe Kerry's made up his mind along the campaign trail seeing how Clark got the attention of Americans across the board, moderate republicans, independents as well as democrats with very little coverage from the media when he was campaigning and still getting good numbers.He certainly has the leadership to be President if anything happen to Kerry and that's important in picking a VP.

Now remember Kerry's son posts here and watchdogs from all the campaigns read to get information across all political views and who the majority of the support was going when the primaries were going on.All the DU polls showed it was Clark. I believe Kerry likes very much what Clark brings to the campaign and now having Jamie Rubin on his side who was Clark's #1 adviser gives me good feelings
it will be the General. :-)

he's such a good speaker and super smart.

Easy to look at too :) Like an ethnic JFK Jr.

That man is fine.......Christine does great work...cause she's happy to have that man, I am sho!

but it's killing me. I had thought my nail biting days were over once Clark dropped out and now they're back with a vengeance.

Originally I believed that he had no chance of being picked and that he was not even remotely under consideration. In a way, that was much easier to deal with.

I'm starting to get my hopes up and I know that comes with the risk of another devestating dissappointment.

I know it's selfish of me, but I really wish that Kerry would go ahead and pick and get it over with.

People in the Heartland have not earthly idea who she is, anyway.

I only know because of you guys! :)

Really - I heard a guest speaker on a rightish wing radio say he was an independent and that was a break-through!