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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:35 PM
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Bush polls / HOW LOW CAN HE GO
At what point in the poll plumet will the RNC try to enlist another cantidate.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:38 PM
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1. 34%
My guess.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:44 PM
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9. I agree with you. That number would be a good representation
of his base whom will vote for him no matter what.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 02:05 PM
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17. That number was thought to be 45%.
But as he makes certain decisions, that number decreases. I was just talking with a Republican coworker who is displeased that Bush is not being more aggressive in Iraq. It is interesting. I disagree with that assessment but do realize that there is more concern about the appearances of atrocity than might otherwise be the case.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 02:08 PM
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18. Perception is reality.
That is what I think anyway. :shrug:

My brother who is a disgusting repub IS NOT in the top 2% but he hears, "tax cuts" from republicans and runs to vote for them. It is all about perception.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 10:10 PM
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26. If Bush is at 34% in November then we will win congress as well...
Which seems unlikely, but not impossible.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:39 PM
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2. It's too late, isn't it?
I guess he could "not seek the nomination", but he already has enough votes to be the candidate I believe.

david
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:41 PM
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5. these scums' most admired strategy is
STAY THE COURSE, to the very end. The Bush Crime Family will never, EVER, buckle under pressure.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:42 PM
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7. He's no LBJ
I agree the floor is the 34% to 37%.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:45 PM
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11. Right, but Primaries were still going on
when LBJ stepped down.

I'm just wondering if it's possible at this point, and if Bush say's he's in, if they *can* replace him or are they bound by laws which say that the deligates were chosen democratically and have to vote this way at the convention.

david
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 08:25 PM
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20. Totally forgot very good point
Edited on Tue May-18-04 08:26 PM by daa
but he still isn't honorable enought to do the right thing. I laugh everytime I hear the wingnuts worried about Clinton's place in history. I do do Chimpy will be the worst ever.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:39 PM
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3. Poppy was 37 in May. Whorses still put him above Clinton though
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:41 PM
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4. about all he has now is his base...
the radical right. Everyone else is starting to see him for what he really is - - the chimp idiot. At least that is my hope.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:44 PM
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10. I hope you are right.
Some people are so blind to his evil. They see him as they want to see him rather than what he is.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:42 PM
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6. 40% unless something seriously bad happens....
...Then, probably about 20%.
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zydeco Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:44 PM
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8. They already have him (IMHO)
and some people here at DU are trying to get him to run as V.P. on our ticket.
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progressiveBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:47 PM
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12. Are you talking about McCain???
I don't get your post.
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zydeco Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:49 PM
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14. Most certainly McCain n/t
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:49 PM
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13. I do not see Bush going under 40%
The country is too polarized and the level of partisanship is too deep for Bush to get much below 40%. However, there is no way for bush to win at 42% approval unless Nader starts polling in the double digit range.

Bush is in control of the GOP and there is no way that he will be dumped. Bush has too big of an ego to bow out and do what is best for the party like LBJ. I think that we see some further decline in the approval numbers down to a level and then vain attempts by Bush to regain popularity.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 02:19 PM
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19. I say
he bottoms in the 20s
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 09:30 PM
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25. I think part of his 40% will desert him if (a) inflation
moves up rapidly (e.g., gas prices). It's been high in some cities for a long time because housing prices (and everything they influence) have been moving upward much more rapidly than salaries, but the ripple effect hasn't been felt yet. and
(b) Iraq continues to be as horribly and unethically mismanaged as it has been to date.
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phatkatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:50 PM
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15. How can they "enlist another candidate" while saveing face?
Scary thought.
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zydeco Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:56 PM
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16. * steps down for mental health reasons.
Look at what he is facing that will be coming out prior to November.
Plame outing, June 30th, 911 Report, e.g. and he already has many House and Senate pugs that are looking to try and save their own butts.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 08:51 PM
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21. My guess is that he bottoms out at 38%
and there are definetly repukes that will vote for Nader than vote for the *. If he continues to free fall watch them cut back on his travels and speeches and start the rumor mill going about him being ill. If he doesn't stabilize they will replace him if for the only reason the BFEE doesn't take the blame for the loss in November. They will put some one else up maybe McCain and Guliani so they can set the stage for another * named Jeb to run in 2008. President Kerry is going to have a very difficult road ahead of him when he moves into the WH. Hopefully he'll have Clark to help him with foreign policy so that he can concentrate on the domestic homefront. Just my opinion.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 09:04 PM
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22. That is my opinion too!
"Hopefully he'll have Clark to help him with foreign policy so that he can concentrate on the domestic homefront. Just my opinion."

Mine too! Go Clark Go!
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Lefty Pragmatist Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 09:16 PM
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23. Health reasons
would be the face-saving way to go, but then the GOP would face a serious battle in the brokered convention. God knows who they'd get to carry the flag -- the most attractive candidate, Guiliani, is way too moderate for the Pioneers and PNAC.

How 'bout Paula Dobriansky? ;-)
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 09:21 PM
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24. RNC will not enlist another candidate
The Bushes raised WAY TOO MUCH MONEY to throw in the towel. The Whores keep spinning all of the bad stats - suggesting that things will turn up for Bush and how everyone really likes him and will be very reluctant to vote for someone else, blah blah blah. He will run and he will lose in a LANDSLIDE.

Remember during the last election when people like Mary Matalin predicted Bush would win 450 electoral votes? It reminded me of the SNL skit when the Chicago Bears fans were betting on Bear games - making outrageous predictions like the Bears would beat the Jets 165 - 0. The Republicans are doing the same thing. They will not give into the facts. Bush wil LOSE LOSE LOSE. HE IS A LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hippie:
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 03:45 PM
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27. Maybe he can reach
Cheneys 31 percent.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 06:25 PM
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28. Fine with me if he drops through the floorboards...
But I won't hold my breath.

Unfortunately, there is that mountain-west/southern "red-state" bloc of voters that will turn out for him no matter what.
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