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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 04:08 PM
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Poll question: Veepstakes survivor! Round FIVE, !! VOTE SOMEONE OFF !! Quick!
Edited on Mon May-24-04 04:12 PM by Bombtrack
****IMPORTANT: A VOTE IS FOR WHO YOU WANT AS VP LEAST, NOT MOST******
We'll start off with ten, and vote someone off of who DU wants least. I'll start a new poll either every 1 day or 100 votes, or when a candidate is mathimatically garenteed to get the most votes before 100 votes are cast. Whichever comes first.

It would be nice if some people who vote and haven't said so yet explain why they voted the way they did. If to keep this thing bumped if nothing else.

Third round results for top 6 most wanted to be voted out:
Bill Nelson - 34%, Kathleen Sebelius - 15%, Bob Graham - 13%, John Edwards - 12%, Wesley Clark/Tom Vilsack - 10% each
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 04:10 PM
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1. Sebelius
same as rounds 3,4--inexperience and from a strongly GOP state.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 04:11 PM
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2. I voted her too, but I almost went with Vilsack
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 04:34 PM
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4. Moderate Dem from a Repub state whose father was the
Gov of Ohio. Hugely popular with women of all political stripes. Effectively countered a Republican controlled state legislature and even vetoed a couple of their bills with success. Won by a large margin in the state where R's outnumber D's 2-1 and it is her 3rd time elected statewide (twice as insurance commissioner--the first woman and first Dem ever in that position). Stood up to insurance conglomerate and even went to court to defend her position as best for the state.

OK so I am from KS and think she is GREAT! I admit she has very little chance because of the lack of time in the Govs office. (Of course, Bush was only elected once as Gov and never as anything else.)

I have to keep saying it to keep her in the race for now :)
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 04:50 PM
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6. that's good to know; thanks!
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 05:03 PM
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9. I like her too...

I keep voting to take her out of this race because I think Kansas needs her far more than Kerry does.

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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:08 AM
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22. I suppose I can agree there. She is great for us and we want to keep
her. Of course, we would gladly let her help run the country if the Senator calls. :)
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 05:23 PM
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12. She is great. I saw her in a forum with Granholm and a couple others on...
...CSPAN and was floored by how smart and sensible she was. The Democrats have a great future if people like her are the face of the party over the next 20 years.
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cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 04:18 PM
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3. From Kos
About Landrieu

Last Thursday, I watched in surprise as Sen. Mary Landreiu attacked her fellow Democrats. The ocassion was the New Democrat Network annual conference, and Landrieu hadn't gotten the message -- this was the new and improved NDN. The one that has ditched the DLC dinosaur and moved into the 21st century.

Landrieu was attacking Democrats for calling for the repeal of the No Child Left Behind law, while only reluctantly laying the blame squarely where it belonged -- on a Republican administration that had made a real mess of the law.

This was a vintage Democratic Leadership Council approach to intra-party disagreements -- turn the guns inward, attack internally. Without a doubt, the DLC is the most fundamentalist organization within the caucus, the most ideologically rigid, and the most destructive to the progressive cause.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/5/24/1712/23448
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 04:34 PM
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5. That is a really idiotic statement, FROM KOS
Edited on Mon May-24-04 04:35 PM by Bombtrack
yeah, an organization that spans from people like John Kerry, who votes the liberal line almost 90-95 percent of the time, to John Breux, who votes it about 55-60 percent of the time is "the most fundamentalist organization within the caucus, the most ideologically rigid"

What a moron. NCLB was co-written by Ted Kennedy, but you know, only republicans and republican-lites can defend it. Give me an effing break. The progressive cause, is apparently, whatever this dip wants it to be.
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Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 04:53 PM
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7. I vote to Kick Edwards
because I think my guy, Edwards, and one other guy will be the final three.

I intend to keep voting for whoever will put my guy near the top when all is said and done.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 04:56 PM
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8. You're statement is confusing., Typo perhaps?
Edwards cannot be "your guy" and the one you want to "kick". Unless your meaning of kick is missed by me
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 05:19 PM
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11. My guess is that his guy is Clark
Not 100 % sure, though.
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Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:08 PM
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15. OK, we're playing Survivor, right?
It's a strategic game.

My guess is that Edward's popularity will enable him to be one of the last to get "kicked off the island"

So, since Edwards is NOT my guy, I will either vote to kick him off, or I will vote to kick off the person who is closest to keeping my guy safe.

So, when I "kick" Edwards, I mean kick him off of VEEP island.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 05:17 PM
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10. I keep voting for Vilsack and he's still viable. Looks like..
next round he'll be out.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 06:34 PM
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13. Edwards....
excellent advocate for worker's rights and the middle class, but I think he will be seen by both Left and Right as more of the same.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 06:56 PM
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14. And most of the left and right has their minds made up about the election
The Middle still decides it a hundred times more than partisan defectors.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:11 PM
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16. Left, including anything left of center, and the same for the Right...
few people are completely centrist.

Edwards simply doesn't seem the sort of candidate that would attract anyone not already backing Kerry. He still would make a great vice president, though, and his committed campaigning for worker's rights nationally and internationally is admirable.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:19 PM
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17. Edwards gets conservative leaning white men
Edited on Mon May-24-04 08:21 PM by JI7
he not only would bring additional support to kerry but in the process chip in to the support that would have maybe gone to bush otherwise.

in the primary kerry did very well among many different groups of voters. from women, to minorities, to senior citizens, young people etc. but one group edwards did far better than kerry on was white men who are independents or republicans.

kerry actually did pretty good among them in iowa and new hampshire but in those states he got to actually meet them personally and persuade them personally to vote for him.

but now it's a national campaign, and edwards does well with this group. maybe they aren't left wing liberals, and they don't hate bush. but if they would be willing to vote for kerry with edwards on the ticket then we should look at it. this was the type of voter ralph nader said kerry could get with edwards and gephardt. iwas surprised to hear that bush actually got like 35 percent of the union vote. these people should NOT be voting for bush. for their own good and their kids.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:41 PM
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19. His southern origin might help him, if that's what you're aiming at...
but he just seems a little Kerry-ish to me; white, pro-war, anti-special interest, sort of a populist...

Viewing it from a purely pragmatic perspective, there's nothing wrong with being Kerry-ish, but the goal is to diversify the ticket and make it a big tent, and I'm not sure Edwards can do that.

Not really sure about the VP ticket at all, though.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:21 PM
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18. it is now mathematically impossible for someone to catch Sebelius nt
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:42 PM
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20. Sebelius eliminated
. Wait a minute for new poll
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:00 PM
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21. Me likey this veep survivor game.
:bounce:
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