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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:44 AM
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As HRC campaign raised $10 million in one day - how much should we expect them to raise in April?
Shouldn't they be expected to raise atleast $ 30 million this month?

Won't they be releasing that number immediately because it will be a record month for them?

If it is less than $ 20 million doesn't that mean they were lying about the $ 10 million in one day?







What say you?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:46 AM
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1. Well, on its face, that's an impressive figure for a monthly sum, but
after you take out the percentage for Mark Penn's donuts, she's in the red once again.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:47 AM
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2. Yeah after that BS day of "$10 million" from "100,000 donors", "80,000" of which were "new donors"
I'd say they must have at least passed Obama on fundraising. I'd say $50 million or so.

But we won't find out for a few more weeks, will we?
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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:54 AM
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7. If they really did raise that much, they'd release those numbers ASAP
They definitely would not wait to float that information out there.

I question whether they actually raised that amount of money in 24 hours...they don't have any accountability for that information (yet).
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:49 AM
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3. I seriously doubt they raised 10 mil in 24 hours.
I expect their monthly total will be about what it was for March; around 15 mil. Maybe they did though; could explain the new plane so Hillary doesn't have to walk past the press to go to the lavatory. ;-)
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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:51 AM
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4. Let's see, let me get out my magical calculator...
Yep. 1 gazillion dollars!!! :sarcasm:

Sorry, I couldn't resist. :evilgrin:
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:53 AM
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6. Just a gazillion?
Guess that means Obama is due for a 3 Gazillion windfall if past fundraising is any indication of future expectations. :)
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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:56 AM
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Just trying to keep things realistic... :P
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:52 AM
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5. At least 80,000..keep expectations high! nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:54 AM
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8. and keep the pressure on for a quick announcement
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:54 AM
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9. We should start a pool. My vote is $1.83 after paying her bills. n/t
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:55 AM
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10. Count on this: the media will not call her on it. But we will!
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:56 AM
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11. Nope.
The big bucks came right after the PA win. Alot fo folks were waiting to see if she was still in the race. As soon as we realized she was we sent our $$$.

I actually sent $$$ the day before and the day after.... but I knew lots of folks who were holding off to see if she was still in it to win it.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:58 AM
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12. nope? The question is how much is a reasonable expectation. Based on your response
I have to up my expectation to $ 50 million wouldn't you agree?
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:00 AM
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14. No.
But I'll be very happy to see that much. I know lots of matching grant requests went out after PA.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:04 AM
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18. Ok so how much do you think she really raised in April?
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:07 AM
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21. I don't know.
But I will make a guess. 30 to 40K.

Again, early April was kinda slim for her. Things turned aorund with that big rush of donations the day after PA.

Not sure what has happened since then... tho I am guessing the Wright controversy may have pushed a few more Dem donors her way.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:09 AM
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22. that's fair
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:13 AM
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23. It wasn't your numbers I was dissenting...
it was the accusation of "lying."

I know for a fact that MANY, MANY supporters were waiting for that PA primary to be over... before they sent more $$$. It makes total sense, for middle class folks who don't have alot of money and want a Dem win... to wait and see if she was still viable.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:15 AM
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24. It wasn't an accusation that she was lying - it was an insinuation that if she doesn't do atleast
what she did the month before then it is doubtful that her campaign was telling the truth. That's fair don't you think?
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:17 AM
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25. You used the word "lying"
and quite honestly I am sick of that word. It's not helpful... for either of our candiates.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:26 AM
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26. and I premised it with the conditional 'if' and I think most reasonable people will find it
very hard to believe that if they raised $ 20 million in the month before, and then raised $ 10 million in one day that if they don't raise $ 20 million the next month it probably means that they did not raise the $ 10 million in one day.

If you read it carefully, you will see that I never said that Hillary the candidate lied, she never stated that she raised $ 10 million in one day.The fact that neither she nor Bill ever boasted that they raised $ 10 million in one day is, to me, a clear indicator that it did not happen.

I do think that their are people on her campaign that lie a lot. If it turns out that they did not raise $ 10 million in one day it will be another.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:32 AM
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27. And my answer is still "nope."
Most reasonable people will be able to think through what happened last month. She won big in PA. We all know that her candidacy was hanging on that.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:58 AM
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13. 60 mil at least, right?!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:07 AM
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29. well atleast 50 anyway
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:00 AM
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15. 20 million
I think she took in 10 million the entire rest of the month and 10 million in that day after period. Maybe 30 million if she was lucky.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:01 AM
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16. $ 20 ??? she took in 20 the entire month before - If she only takes in 20
doesn't that mean her supporters gave up after serious reflection?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:04 AM
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19. She was really hurting
Before PA. After her "big wins" in OH and TX she only got 20 million. People weren't giving to her before the Primary.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:01 AM
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17. Even if they raise $10 million in one day(which I still doubt), minus $15 million
in debt. SHe is at -$5 million. We'll have to wait and see what the rest of the month brought.

And how much of it is eligible for the Primary. I can tell you this, in NC, Obama has radio ads playing all day. I've not heard one from Hillary.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:07 AM
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20. I say her voters are too tight to fund her in the GE. Making Obama more electable.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:34 AM
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28. probably $35 million
She's had a good month due to the media parade on Obama.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:56 PM
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30. Interesting isn't it that neither campaign has said a word about their money
This is the first time that is happened.

I think the Obama campaign doesn't want voters to know how much they took in because it would seem so huge that it would be an unfair advantage.

Clinton's campaign? maybe their embarassed that it won't sound that hot?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:13 PM
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32. or maybe the reverse
Maybe Clinton actually did really well, but they like being the underdog right now. Maybe Obama's campaign doesn't want to look weak, so they are holding on to their low numbers.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:16 PM
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33. sure that would also explain it - rather strange there are no whispers
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:18 PM
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35. except that Clinton campaign seemed to go out of their way to boast about
$ 10 million in one day. Of course if I was struggling and I heard that I would tend to say well I guess they don't need me after all.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:10 PM
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31. How much? More than 9.2%........nt
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:18 PM
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34. no matter what she reports you know it is a lie
as that is all she can do these days.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:26 PM
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36. odd that there is no talk about money from April anybody hear anything??
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:27 PM
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37. I say negative $8 million.
I predict total campaign debt now stands at 23,000,000 or so.

"Ready to lead on day one."
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:29 PM
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38. Well if only we could repeal the federal gas tax for a few days....
it would be billions!!!!!!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:11 AM
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42. lol
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:33 PM
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39. $10M a day since then = $80M
$80M + $113 for the first 22 days - 2 BZ* in debts and loans = FAIL





*BZ: The accountant's term for Brazillion.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:40 PM
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40. I'd check the Clinton clause on that one if I were you. There ALWAYS is a Clinton Clause.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:06 PM
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41. Hasn't anybody heard anything?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:39 AM
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43. $10000001 :-)
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:04 AM
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44. K and R
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:07 AM
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45. She should be able to raise $50 million minimum.
Anything less will prove (yet again) that her failed campaign is in tatters.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:15 AM
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46. And those sticky bill collectors,have they been paid yet?


:crazy:

After she pays all those bills will she be able to have enough left to get back her loan?

What about the poor laborers that worked for her campaign.

Will she let them eat cake?

Will her team be staying at the Ritz in Indiana or the Holiday Inn?
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