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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:54 AM
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Poll of polls: Obama losing ground
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Obama's lead is now down to 1 point over Clinton nationwide, 45 percent to 44 percent, in CNN's "poll of polls." That margin is down 3 points from another CNN poll of polls conducted two days ago. In that analysis, Obama led Clinton 47 percent to 43 percent. The margin is also considerably lower than an April 18 poll of polls that showed Obama with an 11 point lead.

The poll of polls consists of three newly released national polls from Fox News/Opinion Dynamics, Gallup, and Newsweek. There is no margin of error on the poll of polls.

Both the Fox News poll and the Gallup poll were conducted partially after Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, made a fresh round of controversial comments earlier this week.

The Fox News poll also appears to show Obama no longer has an edge over Clinton among independent voters. In head-to-head match ups, presumptive Republican nominee John McCain wins independents by a 4 point margin over Clinton (42-38 percent) and by a 10 points over Obama (47 percent to 37 percent).

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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:55 AM
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1. good, i like going against the grain
cause i just joined Obama in the last few weeks!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:14 PM
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18. Yay!
:hi:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:03 AM
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2. He lost ground right after the "first" Wright scandal, too, and came back.
Edited on Thu May-01-08 09:05 AM by rocknation
At least Ticker is professional enough to admit that it's too soon to tell: "Fox News...(and) Gallup...were conducted partially after Obama's former pastor...made a fresh round of controversial comments..." And as long as there are two Dem candidates, head-to-head polling against one GOP candidate is pure speculation.

GET THEE BEYOND ME, POLLS!

UNCLEAN! UNCLEAN!!!!



x(
rocknation


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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:15 AM
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3. Damn it! It's like God has blessed Hillary and the other rich people
Edited on Thu May-01-08 09:15 AM by nomad1776
It doesn't seem fair!
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:25 AM
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4. Well I'm convinced. I especially like that Fox poll of all of 400 Hannity voters BEST of all.
Edited on Thu May-01-08 10:25 AM by chill_wind
So why can't Hillary close the deal?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:35 AM
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5. Obama is losing the independent vote by ten points
that's bad news for the GE. In a state like ours, it's the independents who decide the race.
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Rob Gregory Browne Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:26 PM
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20. There is NO bad news for the GE
Because this ISN'T the GE. Nothing that happens here can or will relect on how Independents will vote in the GE. It's a long way off yet and the campaign hasn't started yet.

Just as he has always narrowed the gap or beat Hillary, he'll do the same with McCain.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:29 PM
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22. you are wrong. Hillary is branding Obama as an elitist, milquetoast loser who doesn't fight back
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Rob Gregory Browne Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:41 PM
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24. Don't you get it? It DOESN'T matter.
Once Obama is declared the nominee, Dems will fall in line and the only ones going after him will be a bunch of tired old corporate sponsored, empty-hat right wingers who have spent the last seven years proving to the country and the world that they have no idea how to run a country.

Obama will be our next president. Like it or not.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:38 AM
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6. Funny How Some Cling To Polls But Ignore The Scoreboard...
Desperation.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:39 AM
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7. wow, the tide is turning.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:40 AM
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8. give it a few days and as the Wright nonsense recedes Obama will be ahead, as usual.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:40 AM
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9. The tide is definitely turning...
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:31 PM
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10. I think so too. It will be intersting to
see how the next round of primaries go.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:36 PM
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11. The trouble with the damn tide
is that it turns back six hours later.

But this could be good for Hillary. If the tide turns enough so she can get 90% of the remaining primary votes, she will lose by only a few delegates instead of a lot.
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:03 AM
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25. Which, when MI and FL demand their delegates be seated, maybe be just enough to get the job done
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:43 PM
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12. She will still finish in second place.
But keep on dreaming the impossible dream!
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:45 PM
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14. Yep - there is still time to avoid the enormous mistake of Obama being the nominee.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:23 PM
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19. ...
I second that!!! Enormous!!!

Go Hillary!
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Rob Gregory Browne Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:27 PM
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21. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard a Clinton supporter say this the last couple months.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:44 PM
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13. The corporate media whores will not decide our next president!
They ran Wright 24/7 - thankfully, your seeing a whole bunch of SuperD's saying we're not buying it! Look at all the endorsements Obama has received this week alone.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:49 PM
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15. so when after months of leading Obama dips and Clinton gets a brief small lead
all of the Clinton people all of a sudden love the polls and know how to count lol
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:00 PM
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16. Breaking news: the vast majority of people really are that stupid.
This, just from the Rev. Wright thing?

All from a guilt-by-association smear campaign.

We all know what the right-wing media has been doing what they're doing. Because it works. Because they have advertisers and psychologists on staff who have the art of manipulating the stupid down to a science.

I've lost what's left of my faith in humanity.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:13 PM
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17. watched the Moyers interview of Wright
and Wright came across as a very bright, humble, caring, and sympathetic figure. He has done so much for his community.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:30 PM
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23. I actually expected much worse
considering the non-stop media pastorbaiting orgy, this is actually pretty good news for Obama.
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