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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:25 AM Original message |
If you really want Obama to win against McCain, just a few hints. |
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BklynChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. there's a double standard, though. black man getting angry is not a good image for most of America |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. LOL, I just posted that too. But you got in just before me. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
2. Hey Neshanic. Sometimes I feel that way. But then we'd |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yes and if he does that they'll start saying "he is being too angry. He needs to cool down." |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
5. The GE hasn't begun yet. We will see a different Obama up against McCain. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Really. Well it may be too late by then. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
71. Why would it be too late? (nt) |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
6. He already innoculated himself from that. Wright was that fall guy. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
7. I'm sorry you know so little about race and politics |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Angry is one thing. Comatose is another. His wife is gutsier than him, and quite unpleasant. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Your seeing him as comotose hardly makes that true. |
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BklynChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. the fact that you're equating her gutsiness with unpleasant, again, shows a lack of understanding of |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. I will be more precise. |
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BklynChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I think that's the lens through which you see her. I don't see her that way at all; I think she's |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Just trying to be helpfull. I am not the only voter that sees it. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
73. What makes you think so? |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Well counting my imaginary friend, you can say two people. |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Give me real over stepford anyday. n/t |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. You will be getting your wish, just wrong party. Hope that works for you. |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. There isn't anything real about the other party. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. The "angry balck man" title has been taken already. Wright. Obama can use this well. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. So you propose Obama deliberately echo Wright? Seriously? |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. What? Try to stay with me here. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. I don't know where you got the idea |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. OMG. Where to start. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #50 |
60. Wishful thinking at its best. Obama broke ties with Wright, as he of course had to. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Well, it's just advice. But again Obama supporters are not known for |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. We're not opposed to all advice. We're opposed to dumb advice. |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #67 |
77. *Ding* |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
34. Unpleasant? Michelle? Not to me. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
72. Obama=== NOT GOOD ENOUGH for you, hmm?? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. I just find it amusing all of the expert advise going to the guy who has put |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. So to recap. Hilllary polling a bit above, McCain polling above, you call the best run. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Let's recap. He went from being |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Keep reapeating it, and it will be true maybe for you. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Seriously, Nesh. Look at what the candidates did. |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
8. That's what the VP candidate is for... |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. That's why he is polling so far ahead of McCain. Silly me. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Obama hasn't turned his sights on McCain yet. Keep in mind he made up a 20-25 pt deficit |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
14. You're right. The black man needs to look angry, emotional, and unintelligent. |
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NatBurner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. lol ice cube for vp! |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
16. No No No! |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Certainly. At the moment, we can use McCain's temper against him--make him look |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. There are more examples of Obama being Obama than McCain being an ass on the MSM. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. He wasn't emotional when he severed his ties to Wright? |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Yes, yes, yes.....now show that emotion and just an isty bitsy bit of fire on the issues. |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
17. You don't understand. It doesn't matter what Obama does. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. You don't get it either. That's why Hillary supporters want her. |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. You don't have to get angry to win a fight. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Then Hillary would of been done months ago, and he would not be polling barely above a Sun City |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Hillary had the entire Democratic Party establishment going for her coming into this. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. So it's the MSM that make Hillary strong. Better tell KO. |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. The MSM make the Democrats weak. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. You're right - it's just you. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. I think the point is to get a Democrat in the WH, any Democrat will do. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
30. More fake advice from the Clinton team? |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. If I offer advice that makes my vote less objectionable to me when I take one for the team, and I am |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Bullshit. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Where here did I say go negative? Find it. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. You didn't - but you're at least the 5th Hillary supporter to come out |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Well I did not get the talking points. Mine is just act less robotic and HAL-like. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
49. You couldn't possibly be more wrong. (nt) |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Well get ready for a Western WH in Sedona. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. What makes you think people react positively to someone who acts "pissed"? |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I am so sorry, pissed is not in the Obama lexicon. Act REALLY engaged. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Engaged is nowhere near the same as pissed. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Oh God, you Obama people really don't get it. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Well try explaining what you mean. That might help. |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
53. A Hill fan advising Obama on strategy. Um, no thanks. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. But my "shit" vote for him no matter what is OK. |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. I am referring to your tactics that you advocate. They would be exceeding detrimental. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. What's not to understand? You said my advice was "shit". But I assume my vote will be accepted. |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Oh. So you wrote the OP to whine about having to vote for Obama and want me to coddle you? |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Now I just threw up a little in my mouth. |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. A rejoinder fully illustrating your level of tactical and strategic acumen. |
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TragedyandHope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
68. Don't worry, Obama has got it covered |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-01-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
76. when the general election campaigning heats up |
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