It is very telling that so many prople who know the Clintons the best, switch to Obama.....

How many people who have worked close with the Clintons or who have been hired by the Clintons switch for Obama? Really interesting.

That tells me all I need to know.

Doesn't make sense.

And frankly, it speaks volumes that so many who know her don't want her as the nominee.

Makes sense to them!
Weird, huh.

about Senator Obama.

Posit further that they know a great deal about Senator Clinton.

Note that decision making in the face of uncertainty is a difficult task for most people, it takes a lot more expected return to make a decision for an unknown factor than does to stay with the well known one.

So, in the light of all that, people are switching from Senator Clinton, to Senator Obama. Since we started out with the assumption that they know nothing about Senator Obama, we are left with the conclusion that their decision is based on their increasing knowledge of Senator Clinton. As they are choosing to not choose Senator Clinton, I think it's pretty reasonable to believe that their choice is based on learning things about Senator Clinton the don't like.

Unless, of course, they actually do know something about about Senator Obama, and possibly increasing amounts. In that case, they're changing based on things they're learning that they do like. But, that violates your opening statement, so I guess we stick with the other conclusion.

They don't like what they're seeing in Senator Clinton.

"Look Jane. See spot run."

Better?

:eyes:

inevitability early on; seems the tide is changing, thankfully. Maybe they know the true nature of the Clintons, and are not impressed. I certainly am not.

That guy will go down as poison for her campaign, he's a total liability.

and keeping all the good ones. Pretty efficient if you ask anyone.

When you'll need 70% of the SD to get the nomination :rofl:

She needs everyone she can get.

:rofl:

I mean if they don't have the moral character to stay loyal to Hillary, she doesn't want their vote anyway!

:rofl:

Keep going with that. PLEASE. Brilliant campaign strategy!

That's what happens when you have the momentum on your side like she does.

Hillary is doing just fine with the Super Delegate count, and it'll only get better, as you can see by all that's going on right now. :smoke:

I can't wait until this bullshit is over.

and obviously he was spot on, just as I have been all along :smoke:

but that's only because your name is Mooney and not Moochey

In a forum with rampant idiocy, it's hard to stand out. But your post surely does.

:applause:

...or a tag-team wrestling championship -- numbers are more important than having "good" SDs. The ONLY thing that matters is numbers. Your comment is either delusional or profoundly ignorant. Welcome to Ignore.

OMG I bet I won't be able to sleep a wink tonight. lol

will not get this country where it needs to be right now. We need to take this country back, and Obama is the person to do that.

I do not at all envy the next President that has to clean this mess up. It is going to be huge once everything is uncovered.

Thanks for posting.

believe they have some epiphany that obama is somehow the better of the two. I would say something was offered. Something was accepted.These type of back stabing bastards will get their just reward when hrc wins the nomination, and these same bastards come crying and asking for a position in the clinton adminstration. If I were chief of staff I would only have two words for em. FY

Also, I notice that a lot of HRC supporters and people in her campaign use terms like "backstabbing" and "Judas" and so on, and HRC herself is given to using terms like "obliterate."

Why so hostile? Why so melodramatic?

The Clinton's are vindictive.

And these snide little comments about there being "positions" promised.

I think it says a good deal about how these people think.

Loyalty to the Clinton's is more important than what may be good for the country.

Disloyalty to her highness will lead to beheading.

Yeah. That works. :eyes:

But apparently those Clintons have been abducted and replaced with drones.

All these so-called switchers are actually sticking to their values, while the Clintons are trashing everything they used to stand for.

People that know them best in the Senate.

In terms of this discussion, I mean.

are not loyal to their friends and associates -- in much the same way the Bushes aren't loyal to people.

We saw that in the '90s, when a few people defected publicly because they felt they had been used. In the polarizing atmosphere of that time, that was written off as sour grapes. But, it's important to remember that the Clintons lied to friends who then stuck their necks out to defend them. Those friends were later left looking like idiots when the truth came out. In politics, your reputation and your credibility is your currency -- and basically the Clinton's stole that from a lot of people.

Also, they are very vindictive people and kicked a lot of folks in the nuts just to settle petty scores.

It must be very galling to be someone who once supported the Clintons and then got trashed to see Hillary now happily kissing the asses of the very people the friends defended them against.

Put yourself in that position. How would you react? Someone is attacking your friend. Your friend lies to you and you defend him or her. Then, the truth comes out that you were an idiot for believing your friend. You look like a fool and your friend now becomes buddies with the person who was attacking. I don't know about you, but I'd be pissed as hell.

I too think that the defection of former Clinton friends, employees and associates is extremely telling. They are sending a loud and clear message with this drumbeat of defections. We ignore that at our peril.

They are vile and loathsome creatures. People are just willing to call both Bill and Hill on their narcissism now, before they were afraid they'd be killed.

There is far more personal opportunity in backing Obama, and in Chicago, you buy it as quickly as you can.

Oh, and the shameless padding by Clinton in response. That's telling too, as usual.



Foreign policy adviser battle
Saturday, December 22, 2007 2:39 PM by Chuck Todd


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/22/531366.aspx

"For example, Lissa Muscatine is a speechwriter for Clinton, whose foreign policy experience is limited to covering the French Open and Wimbledon when she was a tennis writer for the Washington Post's sports section"



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


This so epitomizes the Clinton campaign.

only the appointed DNC favor Clinton