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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:48 PM
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One of HRC's surrogates is Hillary Rosen, architect of the RIAA's lawsuit crusade
You know, suing 13 year old girls for downloading a Ricky Martin song. Hillary Rosen was the Chairman of this group that claimed the authority to sue regular people for having the temerity to download music on the internet. Thousands of lawsuits were launched; some erroneously, due to the RIAA's carelessness.

That plays well with younger voters, I'm sure.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:51 PM
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1. thanks for the info. I had no idea about this. nm
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:53 PM
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2. Witch! Witch! She's a Witch!
:grr:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:03 PM
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14. B.....B.......B
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:15 PM
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15. HOW the FUCK can HRC claim to be a REGULAR GUY when she has the RIAA's fist up her ASS?
Edited on Thu May-01-08 06:17 PM by bushmeat
SRSLY what would we expect from HRC and Bill and Conyers who have been falling over themselves for YEARS to SUCK from the RIAA TROUGH??????
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:56 PM
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3. Is she really a surrogate?
I remember when I used to watch MSNBC more often during the day, she would always be introduced as an "MSNBC political analyst". Yet, it would always be so slanted towards the Clinton campaign, I knew she was a supporter. No big deal, political analysts on networks slant coverage all of the time (don't get me wrong, it still pissed me off as all hell). Does she have an official standing with the campaign?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:09 PM
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6. No official standing I know of, but she's a very vocal Clinton mouthpiece.
And frankly, if Hillary Rosen is supporting you that strongly, you must be doing something wrong. The woman is vile, a personification of corporate power run amok and the idea that the moneyed interests can buy any law they want, or exemption to any law.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:12 PM
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7. yes, she is annoying.
I always get her mixed up with Kiki McLain in my head though, and I find her worse (but at least she doesn't pretend to be unbiased).
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:07 PM
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4. Yes - this would be possible.
I know from my time in DC (as a low level plebe) that there could be connections between Clinton and people at RIAA - mostly because RIAA uses law firm Arnold & Porter (which strategized the Clinton Defense Fund) in the 90's. A&P lawyers drafted the Millenium Copyright Act, and that firm is a big player in dem politics. I can think of a few people off hand who could certainly socialize with both Rosen and Clinton. But this does go back to the late 90's so other than these people being Hillary supporters I can't imagine how today's young people would care. Besides, most young voters are for Obama anyway.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:08 PM
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5. Well, who says we have an inherent right to free access to Ricky Martin music? Or anyone else's?
You vote with your dollars and support creative content.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:14 PM
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8. You sound like you don't understand the content industry's attitude.
No offense, just saying. I highly recommend some research: these are the same people who have in the past tried to pass legislation demanding that corporate and government controlled hardware be placed in every piece of electronics sold in the United States that would allow them to control what content could or could not be viewed. They've also pushed for deep surveilance of the internet, and forcing ISPs to spy on their users to see if they're doing anything "inappropriate." These are the people who created the DMCA, which is now widely used to suppress information online.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:15 PM
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16. Maybe artists could go back to the good ole days
when they made their money from touring and performing. Nowadays, half the artists are digitally "enhanced". If you've ever been to a Shania Twain concert, you know what I'm saying. So, thanks but no thanks, I will stick to my piracy.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:18 PM
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9. She wasn't labeled as a surrogate - when she should have been
She was detestable. Tucker Carlson through out the question of whose endoresment hurt or helped Obama more Farrakhan or Senator Kerry. She basically said Kerry's was worthless - no one liked him etc
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:19 PM
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10. We used to dislike her a bit when I was working at an online Music company!
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:27 PM
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11. The RIAA sucks
Edited on Thu May-01-08 05:37 PM by Zodiak Ironfist
And I am glad that since they have come onto the scene, people have turned their backs on this bullshit moribund industry.

They suck musicians dry of every penny they can and save all of the profits for themselves, and then they hold up the musician they just royally screwed as the victim of theirs FANS??? Piss on that. I have seen the industry from the musician's perspective, and the artists were getting eaten alive by these monopolistic juggernauts with their mile-long contracts. And then the juggernauts saw a down-tick on their profits and started eating 13 year old girls and old ladies to boot. Now they are burning both sides of the candle.

The problem is the industry. Let it die amongst the uninspiring dronings of American Idol and the vapid emptiness of recycled schticks. They deserve to die, and something greater will rise from the ashes.

The REAL creative musicians are circumventing the industry because the industry is losing its ability to control what is promoted (in other words, available to be seen by the public). It is a beautiful thing.

Music is art....and its effect is transcendental and stirs the soul. You cannot put it into a bottle and sell it in small parcels forever. It is bigger than the industry.

ON EDIT: Got a little too colorful there...had to change a thing or two.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:02 PM
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12. yuck...but i`m not surprised
remember..only a few dollars of the money they get from their lawsuits goes to the musicians. so when anyone says the musicians are getting their money they ain`t
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:02 PM
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13. Interesting
THANKS for this info. :thumbsup:
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