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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:16 PM
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DNC's 100-years-in-Iraq McCain ad seems to work
http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2008/05/antimccain_ad_seems_to_work.html

The Democratic National Commitee ad that attacks Sen. John McCain for his 100-years-in-Iraq remark seemed to have the desired effect with some of the all-important voters who see it, making those voters look less favorably on the senator from Arizona.

That's one conclusion to draw from a study of how some voters reacted to the DNC ad that edited snippets of McCain with video of violence in Iraq.

HCD Reseach Inc., a market research company, found that independent voters went from 50 pecent who saw McCain in a "mostly favorable" light before they saw the ad, to 40 percent after they viewed the ad.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:25 PM
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1. its a killer ad!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:24 PM
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2. It's a damn shame that's it's a misrepresentation of what McCain actually said.
Edited on Thu May-01-08 07:25 PM by MercutioATC
It bothers me that we (rightfully) complain when the media uses Dem candidates' statements out of context, and then release an ad like this. McCain specifically said that he was speaking in the context of a non-hazardous deployment...like Germany or South Korea. This ad does what every sleazy media outlet does...takes a single statement out of context and uses it to scare people.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:27 PM
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3. Do you have the exact quote handy?
Thanks in advance.

Don
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:34 PM
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8. Right here:




Last month, at a town hall meeting in New Hampshire, a crowd member asked McCain about a Bush statement that troops could stay in Iraq for 50 years.

"Maybe 100," McCain replied. "As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed, it's fine with me and I hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day."


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/14/mccain.king/
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:40 PM
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11. Now you got me all fecked up and I replied to this down below
:(
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:44 PM
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13. I know...my fault. Let's just continue below.
Edited on Thu May-01-08 07:44 PM by MercutioATC
Like not here, below....below below...
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:28 PM
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4. The RNC Wright ads with out of context comments are being aired, you shouldn't feel so bad.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:36 PM
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9. I know. That still doesn't make it accceptable.
...and, frankly, I'm kinda disappointed in Dean for approving this.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:30 PM
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5. I kind of agree with you.
I wish the ad had just debunked the logic of McCain trying to equate a country like Iraq with Germany or South Korea, it would have been a much more effective ad and less prone to criticism from the right.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:33 PM
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7. Exactly.
There is more than enough real material to use. Mischaracterizing the opponent's statements like this actually weakens our argument...
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:31 PM
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6. Oops...mispost
Edited on Thu May-01-08 07:35 PM by MercutioATC

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:38 PM
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10. Did he say this more than once? The quote in this video is not the same as the one you provided
Edited on Thu May-01-08 07:40 PM by NNN0LHI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk

He doesn't start talking about taking casualties until after comparing Iraq to Germany and Japan. The casualties part came much later in this quote kind of like an afterthought.

Don
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:43 PM
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12. He says all of it in about 12 seconds...I didn't see anything as an afterthought.
Maybe we're viewing this clip differently, but it's clear to me that McCain is saying that he's ok with the U.S. "being in Iraq for 100 years" on the condition that it's a non-hazardous situation similar to bases we currently have in friendly nations.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:52 PM
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14. But it isn't the same as the written quote above though is it?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:56 PM
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16. No, I just pulled a random quote off Google. Your vidlink is much stronger.
From the video, it's very clear to me what McCain meant.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:53 PM
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15. It Is, Sir, Close Enough For Government Work
Edited on Thu May-01-08 07:53 PM by The Magistrate
One hundred is a nice round number that sticks in the mind solidly.

It does not distort in any meaningful fashion, as any century long presence U.S. military in Iraq can only be a colonial garrison, and this will in the present climate of the world meet some resistance indefinitely.

It is a great advertisement, and should be run to the point of boredom and beyond....
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:06 PM
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17. Magistrate, once again, we disagree.
...which disturbs me a little because I so much enjoy reading your posts.

I do see the strategic value. I was just hoping for a more intelligent ad.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:12 PM
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20. It Is Not A Serious Disagreement, Sir
On the abstract merits, you are correct, and you also recognize the strategic value of the thing, which is all that concerns me.

If it were only thoughtful people who voted, we would not be in our present difficulties....
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:08 PM
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18. NICE!
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:10 PM
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19. Excellent K/R
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:15 PM
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21. Howard Dean explained this very eloquently on Meet the Press
this past Sunday - if there is a clip, you should watch it. I do not see this as a misrepresentation. We all know McCain has supported W 100% these past 7 years and supported him for a war that should not have been waged. He could care less about the lower and middle class who are on the front lines. It is a great ad and I look forward to seeing more of them.
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