Hillary Clinton Asks Indiana and Kentucky to Bet a Little Money on the Filly

LOUISVILLE, Kentucky -- Hillary Clinton made a quick swing through Louisville, Ky., Thursday afternoon, visiting the Louisville Courier-Journal for an editorial board meeting and then swinging by her local campaign headquarters for a brief visit. (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/05/01/hillary-contemplates-another-horse-race/?mod=WSJBlog)

Outside, supporters gathered behind plastic barricades, some clutching the ubiquitous blue “Hillary for President” placards. Among them was Cheryl Jaggers, who runs Queen of Rags, a vintage clothing shop just up the road from campaign’s storefront. It’s located in the Highlands section of the city, an artsy – and according to Jaggers — staunchly Democratic quarter.

“We don’t get much hassle from Republicans around here,” said Jaggers, who like the two friends she was with, was wearing an oversized “derby hat” traditionally worn by women attending the Kentucky Derby, the famous thoroughbred horse race that takes place Saturday at nearby Churchill Downs. Jaggers said she made the hat she was wearing, a beige number with a large pink flower planted on top, for Clinton. And upon her arrival, Clinton tried on the cap for the crowd.

Moving inside the headquarters, Clinton met with some who were working on homemade campaign signs. “This is just so much fun, to come by and say thank you,” she said, adding that she wished could be in town for the horse race. She also alluded to the race she’s in when she suggested bettors might want to wager “a little money on the filly.”







Speaking at her Louisville, KY campaign headquarters, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., told a crowd of supporters Thursday that she is pulling for the filly, Eight Bells, for the upcoming Kentucky Derby. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/clinton-backs-g.html)

In selecting Eight Bells, Clinton picked the only girl horse in the race. Perhaps the most fitting move for the woman vying to bethe nation's first woman elected president.

Clinton in full Derby enthusiasm even tried on a traditional derby hat while greeting well-wishers.

Sen. Clinton repeated her desire for the filly to be victorious – saying to a crowd in Jeffersonville, Indiana saying she was sending in her daughter to place her bets. "I hope that everybody will go to the derby on Saturday and place just a little money on the filly for me. I wont be able to be there this year – my daughter is going to be there and so she has strict instructions to bet on Eight Bells." (video: http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4768504)








BROWNSBURG, INDIANA -- Sen. Hillary Clinton wove together economic, health-care and family issues Thursday morning in a town hall meeting in Brownsburg, Ind., near Indianapolis, where she was joined by her daughter Chelsea Clinton and her mother Dorothy Rodham in a pitch seemingly tailored toward women.
(http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/05/01/clinton-touts-family-policies-gas-tax-break/)

The New York senator touted elements of what her camp calls her “work-family agenda” including a $3,000 tax credit aimed at people who need long-term care, or to their caregivers. She also talked about plans to expand the Paid Medical Leave Act and returned to the issue of high gas prices, which have taken center stage in the political arena in recent days.

“Of course it gives you, just, heartburn to see the numbers flowing up,” she said of fuel prices after a recent stop at an Indiana gas station.

She also said that short-term approaches, such as the gas tax holiday, and long term solutions would both be needed to do something about fuel costs. “We have to do both and we will do both,” she said.







Among other issues, the Democratic presidential candidate proposed an experiment between the federal and state governments to fund paid family leave, arguing that most people can't afford to take the unpaid leave allowed under the federal Family and Medical Leave Act.

Her proposal calls for a $3,000 tax credit to an individual with substantial long-term care needs or their caregivers, a tax credit to cover 75 percent of long-term care insurance premiums and expansion of the Family and Medical Leave Act to cover employers with 25 or more workers. She also called for seven guaranteed sick days for full-time workers.

Hillary Clinton has a bold plan to help Indiana parents manage the responsibilities of caring for their children and their aging parents, while meeting the demands of their work responsibilities.











JEFFERSONVILLE, IND. -- Robert F. Kennedy Jr. spoke this morning at Columbus City Hall in support of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., for president -- citing her solutions for independence from oil, investing in renewable energy and her ability to create change for why she would be the best candidate.

Kennedy said Clinton's focus on renewable energy sources, such as wind and solar power, separates her from her challenger, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. Obama is focusing more on nuclear and coal as energy sources.

Rollbacks of environmental laws by President Bush have hurt 30 years of work of trying to protect the environment, Kennedy said.

"In my arena, the environment, this is by far the worst president," Kennedy said.







Clinton's ability to withstand negative attacks, and gain support in upper state New York, which for years had been a Republican stronghold, shows that she has strength and the ability to transform opinions, Kennedy said.

"It's 100 percent because of Hillary Clinton. She has the capacity to transform and that's what she's going to do four our country," Kennedy said.

"Part of our family is divided and our Party is divided and the reason we are divided is because we have two extraordinary candidates both running for president both who will make unbelievable presidents of this country," Kennedy said. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/robert-kennedy.html)







Continuing his argument, Kennedy said, "but let me tell you why they’re wrong and I’m right, because I know Hillary Clinton better than they know Barack Obama," said Kennedy to a loud applause.

Kennedy went on to speak about the attacks that Sen. Clinton received while in office saying, "she came in after enduring one of the most savage beatings of a public figure during my lifetime with people like Ken Star going spending 40 million dollars going after her relentlessly with billionaires like Richard Mellon Scaife and his whole right wing machine that sent out hundreds of millions of letters to American citizens going after her relentlessly."

Trying to connect the attacks Clinton pushed off to similar criticism President John F. Kennedy endured more than 40 years ago. "She had to endure the same kind of attacks that my father had to endure which was being called a carpetbagger when she came into New York." Kennedy pointed to Clinton's work in the upstate parts of New York to make his point saying that she"transformed those counties, which not even my father could do….."







Hillary Clinton said Thursday those who say she should get out of the presidential race "don't understand politics or history."

Campaigning in Indianapolis on the same day Joe Andrew, a former head of the Democratic National Committee and an Indiana superdelegate, switched his support from Clinton to Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., Clinton countered Andrew's assertion that continuing to support her was bad for the Democratic Party, ABC reported.

Interviewed for ABC's "Nightline," Clinton, D-N.Y., said, "I think this has been good for the Democratic Party."

When asked if she would pull out of the race if she didn't win the Indiana primary, Clinton replied, "I'm not going to pledge to do anything. I'm going to just keep getting up every single day and going out there.

"I think that this is such a close election, why would any of us think that it shouldn't go to the end? We've got a process. The rules are it goes all the way into June. Let's follow the rules and get to those June contests and see where we are."

My wife drew that horse in her pool. She's bummed. I say, never bet on the favorite.

wrong filly

That's like Elwood Blues with "E-L-W-O" on his right hand .... with "O-D" on his left.

Why would you let it bother you?

the inadvertent symbolism is pretty ironic

Sometimes a nag is just a nag.

"Somebody bet on the BLACK..."

You like that one?

Cordially,

Radio Lady

Much more confident and proactive.

And BTW, who brought the horse analogy in in the first place? Wanna go there you need to deal with the backlash.

Cordially,

Radio Lady in Oregon

Is that horse supposed to be Clinton or Obama?

Or is that the unity ticket mascot?

This elections makes my head hurt....

you would be betting on the "Old Gray Mare".

Most of your posts are guilty of the same.

Does this constitute a personal attack on a legitimate Democratic candidate?

What if I said:

"Somebody bet on the BLACK..." Would that be the EQUIVALENT?

Go away. You are really despicable.

Cordially,

Radio Lady in Oregon

:)

policies and also know she will do her best to get them enacted.
She cares about people and what happens to our country.

thanks for your support on this thread.--It hurts to see Bigtrees good work get crapped on by bullies.

Especially so because I want an electable candidate at the end of this primary season.

I am beginning to lose hope that any Democrat will be able to overcome the kicking and screaming FROM OUR OWN PARTY.

Consequently, most of my time is being spent on local and state elections in Oregon.

More focus on the country and the candidates just make me very depressed.

Cordially,

Radio Lady in Oregon

Hypocrite.

I'm so sick of her nasty politics. She REVELS in the mess she's created.

. . . coming on this innocuous thread with your negative politics. And, don't blame Clinton. You're responsible for your own actions.

Go away. You are unlucky and this is despicable.

Cordially,

Radio Lady in Oregon

:shrug:

I just moved here and it seems to be a bastian of progressive thinking. But go ahead... dump on the poor little happy town.

And no. I won't go away.

I'm prejudiced... make something of it!

I'm also turning 69 at the end of the month. YOU and PEOPLE LIKE YOU have stood in my way all along. How dare you diss a 60 year old woman!

I don't care what color you are, or how old you are... YOU'RE just a BOY or maybe a GIRL to me.

You'll label a whole state "backwoods" because of what I, just ONE individual says - and I'm not even from here! I just moved here 6 months ago. And I'd hardly consider Vermont "backwoods". Have you ever been here? Very progressive. Delightfully so compared to other parts of the nation. Even in farm country.

Also I CALL AGEISM! You guys scream CONSTANTLY that people are ageist, sexist, or whatever. LOOK IN THE MIRROR!!! It doesn't just work one way.
1) you don't know a thing about me or how old I am. 2) it shouldn't matter. Do you not respect the opinions of those younger than you simply by virtue of age? SO SAD. Pretty soon you will be relying on people of a younger generation to care for you, protect Social Security, protect Medicare, provide affordable housing. Why is it remotely CLOSE to your best interest to slam people just because they are YOUNGER? Get some sense.

So, I can't diss a 60 year old woman for legitimate reasons simply because she is 60? Are you saying that I can't criticize anyone older than me? I MUST respect my elders? At what age do you become protected from criticism? I want to be sure to get my application in early! What UTTER HOGWASH.

I have never stood in anyone's way of anything. I have certainly never stood in YOUR way. You don't know ANYTHING about me. I've spent my entire adult life working to advance progressive causes and candidates. I've sacrificed salary and time to work towards a greater good. I don't hold anybody back, but I call it like I see it, don't mince words, and if the truth hurts, well you won't get an apology, so don't hold your breath.

Not that color, age or gender should have even come up in this conversation or should be a reason to consider one person's points more valid than another's.... but since you asked: I'm white. 30+. Female. And Gay.

I supported Hillary for a time after John Edwards left. But her nasty, negative, Rovian, neo-con tactics turned me off. Anyone with a CONSCIENCE would have a hard time supporting her. How do Hillary and her supporters feel about her tactics? The phrase "Happier than a pig in slop" comes to mind. But I don't expect any sort of introspection from you. You guys put all criticisms on mute long ago.

it would be a step up for you that you have not earned, same as Obama

........ Filly? More like pig in slop.

I'm so sick of her nasty politics. She REVELS in the mess she's created.

Spitting and hissing only invective makes you appear as one that is simply issue-depraved. That you do not back up your invectives with facts makes you appear as if your just want to spit and hiss, nothing else.

Just remember when you spit and hiss - your keyboard and monitor are the things most effective.

I just get tired of writing them out OVER and OVER and OVER because Hillary supporters are deaf to fact, logic, sensibility, and reason. But fine... FINE... here we go:

Obama was never my first choice in candidates. I was a John Edwards supporter. When he left I was a bit disillusioned, but felt we still had 2 reasonable candidates. I didn't know hardly anything about Barack, but I knew the Clintons. I defended Bill vehemently even at the height of his crises and to the detriment of my relationship with my family. I stuck by them and RESENTED THE HELL out of attacks from those like Scaife and Rove.

So I began supporting Hillary Clinton for President. The most important thing to me though was getting a democrat, ANY democrat, in the white house. I don't know about you, but I simply cannot take 4 more years of the same. I think about our guys in Iraq, and the failing economy, and corruption, and healthcare, and poverty and it makes me physically ill to know we are STILL not doing anything about these things. I seriously can't sleep at night. So no matter what, the MOST important thing is getting a democrat in the White House.

But then she started with the negativity and nastiness. It benefitted NO ONE BUT HER. And it harmed the party and our other candidate's chances. Here are a FEW of the things that made me do a 180 on Hillary:

- Building McCain up while condensing Barack down to "just a speech". That was awful. I wasn't supporting Barack at the time, but I knew the man was more than that. Even if all he had ever done was become a community organizer, that's respectable and takes a LOT of hard work and dedication. Her statements were NASTY and UNCALLED FOR.

- Bill in SC equated Obama to Jesse Jackson. It was a blatant attempt to marginalize him as the "black" candidate. When YOU KNOW and I KNOW he is so so much more than that.

- Geraldine Ferraro's ridiculous statements. What RACIST DRIVEL! I could not believe the words coming out of her mouth. I was stunned. So to not have Hillary come out IMMEDIATELY and distance herself in a meaningful way? It made me angry.

- She CONTINUES to bring up Rev. Wright despite the fact that Barack has made it clear that he does not share the man's beliefs on these controversial issues.

- Robocalls in NC: Her campaign manager is on the board of this organization who is calling black voters and giving them incorrect voting information. The staff are Clinton supporters. They did these calls in other states, were caught, everyone was made aware that they were illegal, and yet they persist.

- Tuzla. She revealed herself as a liar. She embarrased herself. And maybe you don't care about it, but I do. I don't want anyone that thinks it's ok for any reason to lie to the American public.

- She put Chelsea in an AWFUL position. I adore Chelsea Clinton. When Hillary LIED about Tuzla, she put Chelsea in the position of either pointing out that her own mother had lied OR lying herself. NOT COOL.

- WeatherUnderground: You attack Barack for a former member of weatherunderground holding a fundraiser for him when it was BILL CLINTON who commuted the sentence of members of the group. HYPOCRITES!

- The JUDAS syndrome: In Hillary-land, when someone comes out and endorses Obama, it's not because they actually believe he is the better candidate, it is because they are traitors or judas or attempting to stab her in the back. NEWSFLASH: MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE BARACK TO BE THE BETTER CANDIDATE. They have every right to do so without facing SLANDER from your candidate.

- MI & FL: She knew those elections were invalid. She signed a pledge not to campaign there. She AGREED they wouldn't be counted. NOW, once it's to her advantage and her advantage alone, she wants to have them counted. WRONG. If you had ANY problem with it you should have raised that issue BEFORE the primary.

- Donors threatening Dean and Pelosi: EXTORTION. A small group of rich donors do not get to dictate what our great democratic leaders think, say or do. Keep your fucking money. The rest of us little guys will make it up.

- Columbia: Your HUSBAND and MAIN CAMPAIGN ADVISOR have ties and are receiving money on behalf of the Columbian trade deal. But you are against it? You are directly benefitting from that money. Bill's money is Hill's money. period. LAUGHING OFF a legitimate journalistic question is ARROGANT. Conflict of interest, even the appearance of it, is a serious issue.

- Obliterating Iran: TERRIFYING. We already have one jackass president running around posturing and trying to start wars. We don't like him. Worst approval ratings ever. But her statements seem even more hawkish than his!

- The blame game: Whenever Hillary does something particularly nasty she is quick to launch an attack on Obama accusing him of the same thing first. WHEN REALLY, the man is just defending himself. Rovian tactics 101.

- Gas tax holiday: MORONIC!!! Any idiot who knows the basic laws of economics will tell you that this plan is FOOLISH and will ultimately HARM the consumer more than HELP him. She's just trying to get uneducated people to think this is a good idea SIMPLY FOR VOTES.

- Which brings me to another point: HER VOTE FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ. Either she is one of the most foolish people on the planet for having thought that was a good idea. (Nevermind the fact that she has admitted she didn't even READ the intelligence... don't we already have a president who doesn't like reading) OR she voted for the war knowing she was going to run for President and a vote against it might make her look weak.


UGH. I could go on and on and on, but I am tired of writing. I have VERY legitimate reasons for NOT liking Hillary. But you guys stopped listening to reason and logic long ago. Anyone who doesn't agree with you, you automatically put on MUTE.

Don't fucking say I don't have any substance. I got substance. Care to respond to anything substantively?

only the pig is actually cute. HRC is ugly to the bone (ugly is as ugly does).

:thumbsdown:

Nice post bigtree! Some nice pics and a good positive thread! :applause:

(Obama supporter, but I like positive candidate threads, and need to kick a good one! :) )

she's despicable

. . . the old, cheap campaign tactic of labeling the rival candidate a liar for everything the opponents disagree with.

It's not working. And, the tactic is despicable.

Do you really see that post of yours on this thread as the 'high road'?

my post is the truth

it's my pleasure, of course.

Thanks for all of the great pic and info threads you do about Hillary!

:pals:

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

:toast:

love it!

I just know you're going to say something that sounds like 'sure'.


on edit:
Never mind - - it's larger than 20k. Thanks anyway!

:evilgrin:

(for your even handedness in your top notch article posts).

here's my dual effort for today

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5782589

Metaphorically speaking, of course.

Other than that, your post is terrific!
:toast:

If anything, the fact that she won was a testament to her campaign. But to make a big deal out of the fact that people called her a carpetbagger, like that's the end-all and be-all insult, especially in this campaign, is kinda silly.

Obama has been called an Uncle Tom, Jesse Jackson, Tom Bradley, Effete, Elitist, Out-of-touch, and a shitty bowler.

Carpetbagger doesn't really rate.

but, why sully the efforts of these seemingly good folks from Indiana?

Spent five years in and out of prisons, and to this day, I still have to be careful how I say that! ;-)

I've had the much the same perspective . . . in my younger days . ;)

Thanks for all your hard work!!!!!

"It's 100 percent because of Hillary Clinton. She has the capacity to transform lies into her own twisted reality and that's what she's going to do for our country," Kennedy said.

. . . that you would twist, distort, and change RFK's words to make a point about your perception that Hillary Clinton lies.

..it has been proven time and time again. also I am not running a campaign nor running for office.

. . . although you are certainly entitled to promote your opinion on this thread promoting my choice in this election.

Still funny, about posting a doctored statement to promote your opinion that she lied.

:kick:

"Big Brown" won the Kentucky Derby race.

So much for the allegory vis-a-vis the election -- you folks can take it for what it's worth.

"'Bye-bye for awhile and keep a smile!"

Radio Lady in Oregon

The poor animal, I will never understand the practice...

Because when a beautiful animal is broken and killed for fun and entertainment, it means nothing to people like hillary.

As far as she is concerned it is just another beast of burden to be thrown away when no longer useful or entertaining.

Can we please not politicize a tragedy?

It's one thing to draw a metaphor in the results of the race, but the fact that the horse had to die is a tragedy regardless of which candidate we support.

Eight Belles comes in second, breaks both front ankles, euthanized on the track.

Jeebus, that's unfortunate.

Look at the entire thread for citations about the "filly" -- they are all pretty disgusting.

Thanks for reading.

Have a good evening.

Radio Lady Ellen