New polls show Clinton doing better than Obama against McCain in three 'swing states'

"New York Sen. Hillary Clinton holds strong leads over Arizona Sen. John McCain --
and runs much better than Illinois Sen. Barack Obama -- in three critical swing
states, Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania," the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute
reports this morning.

According to Quinnipiac's latest polls in those states:

Florida: Clinton tops McCain 49 - 41 percent; McCain gets 44 percent to Obama's 43 percent.

Ohio: Clinton beats McCain 48 - 38 percent; McCain gets 43 percent to Obama's 42 percent.

Pennsylvania: Clinton tops McCain 51 - 37 percent; Obama leads McCain 47 - 38 percent.

As you can imagine, the Clinton campaign is touting the results. Chief strategist
Geoff Garin, on a conference call with reporters that's happening right now, just said
"it's hard to think of the electoral math that leads to a Democratic victory in November
without Ohio and Florida." (emphasis added)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/#24416353

How do you think your post is in any way helpful to our country?

Hillary "wait till the GOP and the media totally opens all of that baggage" Clinton....which is why she won't be the nominee, because even on Obama's worst day, he still is better than she is on her best day.

If she becomes the nominee.YOU will have to support her or stick a clothes pin on your nose and vote for McCain, at which time you would then be voting against your own best interest. Truth is Clinton IS as good as Obama. And Politics make strange bedfellows.

Keep telling yourself that.

The OP is very helpful to our country in that it helps us decide who we should nominate if we want to win the GE. You are like the hear-no-evil/see-no-evil monkeys, by choice oblivious to the fact that the nominee has yet to be chosen and that Obama's chances of getting it are diminishing by the day. If only you would also follow the advice of the third monkey and just shut up.

out there and it does not bode well for Obama, as far as electability goes.

Get a brain, moran.

He has to be the worst GOP candidate of all time.

happened. OH, FL, and PA? Who is directing this conversation? Oh! Geoff Garin, Hill's new 'Penn'? Direct the 'noise', and it's a done deal? Not necessarily, my dear. :hi:

because fair is fair OR doing the wrong thing and winning with Hillary, what the super-delegates should do after hrc wins indiana, west virginia, kentucky. nc (close) and PR is go ahead and do the wrong thing and vote for HRC which will be by the dnc standards the best qualified and most likely person to win in november.

So what's your thinking here?

I could be wrong.

Obama is competitive now in Florida! He's only losing 44-43.



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I've posted that many times. It's been inane overreaction to pretend it's out of his reach. A state with basically 20% liberals and 34% conservatives is smack in play, the mathematical definition of a swing state.

Hillary has a more natural route in the state and she can win Florida in a tighter national popular vote result than Obama can. But Obama absolutely can tug Florida along if he defeats McCain by at least 2-3 points nationally.

And you're proud of this?

Get over yourself.

Obama WILL win this. He will. All she is in the race at this point is a spoiler -- and she isn't helping Obama so who is she helping?

But you obviously have to tell yourself that to go on living in your fantasy world. It's going to be a hard month for you with Clinton winning so many primaries. Better remember to take your meds.

Nothing but childish diatribes and juvenile, mud-slinging tactics. You (and others like you) are the ones ignoring reality and mathematics and the sheer facts of the matter. Clinton can win every primary from now until 2012 and she STILL won't be able to get the nomination. There will only be one frontrunner where numbers are concerned -- that is Barack Obama. My candidate was Edwards, but I'm a grown-up and a real Democrat who wants our party to win. I'm not going to sit in a corner like a spoiled child and hold my breath until the big mean superdelegates do what I want them to do. The Clinton supporters are doing nothing more than weakening the Democratic Party's chances of winning in November. The nominee will STILL be Obama ... and you'd better hope to hell it is. If you were able to pull off some coup and force a widely hated candidate like Hillary Clinton (who couldn't win the California primary now if she passed out wads of cash in the street) into the nominee spot, we'll all be in for the worst fight of our lives against McCain ... and still might lose.

Unless of course Diebold is being set-up by the BushClintons to seal the deal yet again.

And a look at the national polling situation gives you no basis for the rest of what you said. Also, super delegates going for Hillary would not be a "coup", it would be a legitimate use of the system the party has set up. And especially if Hillary, as I suspect she will, racks up big wins this month and closes the popular vote gap, and gets the delegate count close enough to put her over with Florida and Michigan, then the Supers should feel no shame looking at this from a strict standpoint of electability. And in that case, Hillary would fare better.

I too was an Edwards supporter from the start (but torn also between Biden, Richardson and even Kucinich). A small part of me still hopes this whole thing will deadlock at the convention and that Edwards would then as the runner-up be voted through on a subsequent ballot as the compromise candidate. But I realize this is probably nothing more than a pipe dream, and could possibly even cause more harm than good. We have to put forth the most electable of the two remaining candidates - both flawed in one way or another - because we HAVE to win come November. The inevitably upcoming Supreme Court picks is a big reason for that and for why I'm now throwing my support behind whom I think will have the best chance against McCain. Obama and Hillary are 95% alike on issues and voting record, so there's no improvement either way there. It all comes down to persons now, like it or not, and Obama is too hurt to go all the way.

Edit: It was stupid of me to tell you to "take your meds". I'm sorry and I apologize for that; it's hard not to get carried away in this atmosphere.

To suggest otherwise is to not understand the system as it is structured. We have our nominee -- and to continue to attack him only weakens him.

It won't be clear until June 4th at the earliest and August 29 at the latest. To suggest otherwise is to not understand the system as it is structured. But, I don't think we'll get any further here arguing semantics.

There is a clear nominee -- to suggest there isn't is the same as assuring John Edwards has some shot at the nomination if the convention gets locked up. It's possible that I may win the lottery tomorrow but I'm not bothering to buy a ticket because the odds are so profoundly against it I won't bother.

Meanwhile in the real world, the primaries go on as planned and a nominee has yet to be chosen. And like I said, you are going nowhere repeating these delusions of yours. This ends here as far as I'm concerned. Good luck on the 6th, you're gonna need it.

Very similar to your candidate.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Already gave mine.

Color Florida red... Elected both Bushes twice, legislature solidly repub, all repub Gov and cabinet except Treasurer. Count FL for McCain, and neither Obama or Clinton is gonna change that.

people have to keep posting this garbage. After how many months of this now, we are just tired of this crap.

Just wait until swing state voters find out that HRC's advisors think they're nothing but 'white ni%^#$s'.

You don't think Obama can make up one point when the GE gets going? I'm comfortable with Obama being down in Ohio and Fla and creaming him in Penn.

No worries, GoBama!