GLBT DUers. How do you feel about Hillary's new homophobic campaign

I guess in order to court the "blue collar class" and "regular folk" voters Hillary is all for starting up the homophobia tour across America. How do you feel about this? Personally it makes my blood boil to see her smiling while her surrogates are pretty much telling f*g jokes.



http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/04/29/politics/fromtheroad/entry4054429.shtml



http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/30/965093.aspx


Pretty disgusting stuff on the campaign trail imo.

you guys must really be scared. The attacks are getting more and more ridiculous.

people pansies and suggest they have testicles in order to lead? How very interesting.

This is the type of divisive garbage that holds America back. Particularly the union leader ranting about evil latte drinkers, you think this is progress? America?

And Governor Easley didn't call anybody a pansy... He said that Hillary made Rocky (one of the toughest) fictional characters in American culture "look like a pansy"...

I don't like the word, pansy but I have met as many strg8 men as gay men who fit that description...

It is totally unacceptable, especially with the candidate standing there giggling!

is pretty much calling him a "girlie-man" another homophobic slur I spoke out against when the governor of CA used it.

Seriously.

It's a god-damn coffee drink. That's ALL.

Someone needs to find a fucking shrink, pronto.

to think that a premium coffee drink is ruining the "American" lifestyle is out-of-touch with any sort of reality.

coffee drinks like that and a lot of them are just middle of the road 'Mericans. LOL.

It's not like we're talking about something made from some rare plant that can only grow in a certain five square mile spot on earth and is $1700 a pound. Geez.

It's not exactly high-falutin' when you can get it at the Stop N Go, the 7-11, Dunkin' Donuts or McDonald's.

...at the shit-and-git.

The fact of the matter is that both campaigns, and their supporters have behaved like assholes to damn near every minority or oppressed group you can think of.

ON EDIT: The one thing I can say that is consistent about Democratic candidates in campaigns, they are always willing to treat GLBT people like shit, and still have the audacity to expect both their votes and money. The one minority everyone shits on, Democrats or Republicans.

who's ever had a realistic chance at becoming president. Aside from not supporting marriage- which I wish they'd do- where are they deficient on the issues? If you can't see the difference between the dem party an GLBT issues and the republican party, you're not looking. Yes, there are dems who suck on the issue, but it's nothing compared to where the pukes are in their attitudeds toward the GLBT community.

and that's the primary point, I don't pretend to know what most GLBT people think, however, from my perspective, no one in their right mind is going to say the Republicans and Democrats are equally bad, the Republicans are worse, by a long shot, but that doesn't make the Democrats good, just less bad.

In addition to this, Democrats have a bad habit of compromising on shit they shouldn't even both compromising on, such as the ENDA bill. Leaving the "T" out of GLBT is just atrocious, and, considering the bill was, at best, symbolic, with Bush still in office, it says a lot about Democratic Party leaders in Congress. They simply don't believe in equality, they just want to appear to care, to pander for votes.

A gay man. That's right: Barney Frank. Why? He KNEW he couldn't get it through with the provision including transgender folk. How did he know? He counts votes. That's how. Are you actually saying that Frank doesn't believe in equality, doesn't care and just is appearing to care? As for pandering to votes, if that was true there would have been NO ENDA. Yes, politicians pander for votes- or at least a lot of them do. Don't see much of that where I hail from, but that's a different story. Politics is the art of the possible. Hackneyed but true.

We have a bill, that just passed the House, that basically tells Transsexuals to go pound sand, for all Democrats care, because the bill was a compromise WITHIN the Democratic party. Its extremely partisan, so much so that only 35 Republicans voted for it. Even given that it was a compromise, Bush is going to veto it, and the Democrats do not have the votes to override such a veto. Given these facts, what was the motivation for excluding Transsexuals from the bill again? I thought you said that politics is the art of the possible.

Oh, and I don't give a shit who wrote it.

She told a story about her father and some gay neighbors of his. It was long and tiresome but she looked quite eager to make points with the GLBT community. Ellen seemed genuinely impressed, at least to me viewing it at home.

So I am a little doubtful that Clinton is homophobic. It's a shame if some of her supporters are. That's unacceptable to me.

I have posted many time and even started a thread about it in the GLBT forum. I do not believe that pansy is an anti gay slur. It means weak it is not the nicest thing to say but it is no gay slur.

Since the term has been used to describe a weak person for about 100 years now. Obama supporters will latch onto the most ridiculous to use as an excuse to place Hillary at the bottom of the food chain.

I guess he would have been on safer ground if he said Hillary Clinton makes "Rocky look like a wimp."

The fact that we are discussing the word "pansy" is a distraction from the fact that both of our candidates are weak on GLBT rights. Neither of them are brave enough to risk coming out and saying that GLBT Americans deserve the same rights that everyone else deserves.

He just made a metaphor to describe how strong and resilient Hillary is....

I don't suppose any bland presidential candidate ever will. Which is why it's so necessary to make sure our local, state, and federal representatives DO take a stand...and are regularly called to account for themselves on GLBT issues.

My 15 year old daughter and her friends are so much more open minded and loving with each other regarding sexuality. She has 8 friends that are openly gay or bisexual. They are open at school and it is totally accepted, even by school officials. They openly date each other. They openly show affection at school. It is up to us to teach the children. They are our only hope. All of these squishy fat white men in power will never have the courage to make things change. I firmly believe the next generation will show the changes that so many have fought for and it will be our children who do it.

called DU Obama supporters, have now surpassed Rove and company as the masters of the art. They should open up a carnival side-show.
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What is this, 1987?

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I'm a Louis Vuitton guy, myself... (LOL)

Why has he been so reluctant to do so?

Is this like "fairytale"?

aimed at putting down a group of people. I guess anything for the "hometown girl"

he used one rooted more in sexism than anything else. Ironic, but not in the slightest bit homophobic.

That is homophobic in my opinion and that is not a reach. Nothing better than calling him a "girlie man" both sexist and homophobic.

The testicular slur was suggesting that someone else running does not have the gentials. It's disgusting language that her supporters are eating up with delight. Sickening.

It's questionable at best that it's a homophobic slur. Was the person he was calling it gay? Maybe I'm missing some critical aspect of this, because it's definitely more sexist than homophobic even if the person he's directing it at is gay.

both sexist and homophobic because we all know there is something VERY wrong with both girls and girlie men as this man suggests. So sexism is now acceptable even is homophobia is not? Is that really what her campaign is trying to do to answer this "well it was more sexist than homophobic"

:wtf:

It's disgusting language to be using with THE CANDIDATE ON STAGE BEHIND YOU SMILING!!! This is beyond bizzaro the silence from HRC and her supporters with these recent comments and the way her campaign has tried to pivot into pro-bigot pro-class warfare mode.

Hang on. Be right back.


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Senator Obama would not approve of the multiple reposting of this weak sauce. :/

That's why I'm voting for him.

or did you just discover the issue this week?

I share your disgust with what Easley said, but I'm just a little surprised, since I don't remember you showing any interest at all in gay issues before.

Which, whatever, as a very tomboyish gay woman, I don't have a problem with it.... I just find it intriguing.

Apparently only women who are ball-busting bitches are acceptable. I don't give two shits about who is "TOUGH". I care about who is smart and level-headed... man or woman.

I'm gay (and an Obama supporter), and while I don't like the "pansy" reference, I'm not finding anything about HRC's campaign "homophobic" (a GROSSLY mis-used word, by the way). She doesn't have a lot of control over what some dumb-ass supporter/endorser says about her during a live event, so I don't blame her or the campaign for this. I think there are plenty of things to criticize, but this isn't one of them.