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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:22 AM
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Indianapolis Star endorses ...
Hillary Clinton!

Experience makes Clinton better choice in primary



Clinton offers a clear-eyed view of the way things are. She offers nuanced positions on how to address the war in Iraq, trade with China and economic expansion. Her depth of knowledge is remarkable

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080502/OPINION08/805020400/1291/OPINION08



Let's hear it for Hillary!
:bounce:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:23 AM
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1. Wahoo!
:woohoo:
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:48 AM
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44. Indianapolis Star

Is that like the Lone Gunmen's paper?
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:47 AM
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52. Indianapolis Star: The preferred paper of "white ni**ers" all across Indiana
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:50 AM
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54. Neat.
:eyes:
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:53 AM
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55. Ha ha ha Desperation they name is the Obama campaign
Out hate mongering much?
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:11 AM
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57. Hate mongering? Never. That's Clinton territory.
I'm just calling out the hate mongers.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:15 AM
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58. About that finger you're trying to point ...
guess where three others point?
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:23 AM
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61. The best thing about this Kantor racism video is watching Hillbots
farting and tapdancing, trying to make it go away.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:05 PM
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62. The video is fake. Y'all have been punked.
Like lemmings off the cliff.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:44 PM
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63. Ahh, then Karl Rove strikes again -- Hillary's worse than I thought
At least Hillary is getting her money's worth from buying his "Slime Campaign Playbook"
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:24 AM
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2. The Indy Star is a right wing paper, and everyone in IN knows that. So what.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:26 AM
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6. Ha ha ha.
It kills you right!

Clinton offers a clear-eyed view of the way things are. She offers nuanced positions on how to address the war in Iraq, trade with China and economic expansion. Her depth of knowledge is remarkable.

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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:29 AM
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11. Wrong. Here's a clue- this is IN, dems don't get good press here, especially from the Star.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 08:32 AM by faithfulcitizen
Again, so what.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:33 AM
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18. They sure sucked up to Obama when covering his basketball match.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:37 AM
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20. The Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton just got good press.
And in the endorsement, they were kind indeed to Obama.

That sure does debunk your theory.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:51 AM
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26. "Clinton regrettably has pandered more to voters, particularly on gas prices, than Obama."
great press. It's not a theory round here. Again think "operation chaos".
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:26 AM
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8. Isn't it like one of those Scaife papers?
Why doesn't she just run as a Republican, already.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:32 AM
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17. Used to be owned by the Dan Quayle family
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:43 AM
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25. 'Nuff said!
I forgot the Quaylester was from there. I was born in Indiana - but that is my only tie there.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:40 AM
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22. Yeah! Hillary slays yet another dragon.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:19 AM
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40. That is so cool!
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mike772 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:25 AM
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3. YARRRRR
you go girl :D
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:25 AM
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4. She voted FOR the war in Iraq AND China free trade bills...that's cross-eyed IMHO...
Nuanced positions?

:rofl:
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:25 AM
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5. Quite An Endorsement!
"Clinton regrettably has pandered more to voters, particularly on gas prices, than Obama. Both have taken stands on free trade that give in to protectionism.

Clinton also was an integral part of her husband's political machine, which earned a reputation for flattening opponents. That factor understandably gives many voters pause about whether another Clinton should serve as president."



:rofl:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:26 AM
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7. yeah
and they STILL think she's better than Obama.

:rofl:
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:31 AM
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12. Yes, "Operation Chaos" is working. Yeah!
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:32 AM
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14. Most Repubs ARE Hoping She Will Be The Nominee,,,
But not because they want to vote for HER though. Idiot.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:51 AM
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28. And the Indianapolis Star is the largest newspaper in Indiana
:toast:
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:10 AM
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39. Why Doesn't It Surprise Me HRC Supporters Are Excited About Another RW Endorsement
Pathetic.
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Lannigan Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:08 AM
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46. Seems to me these "RW endorsements" are evidence
Of her ability to reach across the aisle, just as she has been doing as US Senator. Proves she will be taken seriously when elected president.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:56 AM
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56. Except only Democrats are reaching across the aisle
The Republicans then pull them rightward.


In case you haven't noticed, they don't compromise! Either you do what they want, or it doesn't get done. They filibuster and use the MSM and right-wing radio to force compromise on THEIR terms, not Democratic terms!

The entire Democratic Party has been pulled rightward thanks to the DLC's "third way" shit.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:27 AM
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9. "nuanced positions on how to address the war in Iraq"=invade with guns ablazin', figure it out later
after 4000+ dead soldiers, 29000 wounded soldiers, and a million dead civilians. That is some amazing nuance there.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:28 AM
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10. her experience helped bring a disaster of epic proportions.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 08:28 AM by meow mix
thanks for the war vote,
great experience there hill.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:31 AM
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13. The "other" candidate supports that disaster with his votes now...
Nice speech in 2002, but he is not the anti-war candidate !
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:42 AM
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23. thats a rightwing meme, defunding is the same as killing the soldiers ourselves.
its not an option,
nice try with the republican broken record though
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:08 AM
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35. Excuse me? How do you think Viet Nam ended?
Congress cut the funding....which is budgeted and voted on months before it goes into effect.

Now step slowly away from that kool aid pitcher :D
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:43 AM
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24. She nuanced the hell out of that one.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:32 AM
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15. And McCain!
"A VOTE FOR MCCAIN

Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, has a long and distinguished record of service to this nation, both in the U.S. Senate and U.S. Navy.

McCain offers strong foreign policy experience, a record of fiscal discipline, and a history of reaching out to political opponents that few in Washington, D.C., can match.

McCain secured the Republican nomination months ago, and as a result has spent little time campaigning in Indiana. He should not, however, take victory in the state for granted this fall.

In Tuesday's Republican primary, The Star endorses John McCain."


Is it just me or does it sound like the editorial board prefers McCain? Why no mention of his gas tax "pandering" as they nailed Hillary for?
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:34 AM
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19. Seriously, as far as Dems go in Indy, the Star might as well be the drudge report.
It's THAT obvious.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:32 AM
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16. Exposure does not equate to Experience...
I wish people would stop confusing the two.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:38 AM
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21. Go Hillary
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:51 AM
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27. Yep, the Des Moines Register endorsed her too.
She still came in third in IA.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:52 AM
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29. It endorsed Dan Qayle as well. You might try reading other media.
The editorial board of the STAR is not known for its progressive positions, to say the damn least.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:55 AM
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30. It used to be owned by Quayle's family
They sold it recently, but it was originally one of the Quayle family holdings.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:59 AM
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31. That's true. Hi, Armstead. Good to see you.
I will never ever forget the Quayle win over incumbent liberal Senator Birch Bayh, Evan's old man.

Birch and my family tree go back a ways with a great deal of affection and respect and the night that little shithead Dan Quayle defeated him -- with the chirping chorus of the STAR all along the campaign -- was a dark evening indeed.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:02 AM
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32. I liked the elder Byah...
I wish the son were more like the old man
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:07 AM
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34. You've got it exactly right.
Yes.
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:04 AM
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33. Good for her. Don't know of how much importance this is though!!
Every major paper in PA had endorsed Obama.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:09 AM
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36. Madame President!
:party: :woohoo:
:applause:

:toast: :woohoo:
:applause:
:woohoo:
:applause:

:bounce:
:headbang: :woohoo:
:applause: :woohoo:
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:woohoo:

:party: :woohoo:
:applause:

:toast: :woohoo:
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:woohoo:
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:bounce:
:headbang: :woohoo:
:applause: :woohoo:
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:woohoo:
:applause: :party: :woohoo:
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:toast: :woohoo:
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:bounce:
:headbang: :woohoo:
:applause: :woohoo:
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:woohoo:
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:10 AM
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38. yippy!!!!
K&R!!!!!:party: :woohoo:
:applause:

:toast: :woohoo:
:applause:
:woohoo:
:applause:

:bounce:
:headbang: :woohoo:
:applause: :woohoo:
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:woohoo:
:applause: :party: :woohoo:
:applause:

:toast: :woohoo:
:applause:
:woohoo:
:applause:

:bounce:
:headbang: :woohoo:
:applause: :woohoo:
:applause:

:woohoo:
:applause: :party: :woohoo:
:applause:

:toast: :woohoo:
:applause:
:woohoo:
:applause:

:bounce:
:headbang: :woohoo:
:applause: :woohoo:
:applause:

:woohoo:
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:09 AM
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37. Congratulations to Hillary and her supporters...
that is all:)
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my2cent Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:33 AM
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41. yippppppppppppppppppeee
Go hill:bounce: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause:

:applause: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:42 AM
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42. Indianapolis Star: October 17, 2004:

"It is time for experience and resolve, which is why George Bush should be re-elected for a second term. Without a re-election facing him, the president can move to do those things he said he would do in his first presidential campaign."

Anyone else think that maybe, just maybe, their judgments about "experience" leave something to be desired?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:44 AM
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43. This is a rightwing paper owned by Dan Quayle's family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_C._Quayle
After the war, Quayle married Corrine Pulliam, the daughter of wealthy newspaper publisher Eugene C. Pulliam, at Indiana University. Their marriage united two families that shared a strong passion for the newspaper business. Pulliam is the daughter of Eugene C. Pulliam, former owner of the Indianapolis Star and The Indianapolis News and the half-sister of Eugene S. Pulliam, for whom the school of journalism at Butler University is named.

It was right wing in the 1970s - and still is. This is almost as good as getting Mellon Schaife's paper's endorsement.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:38 AM
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48. Why am I not surprised? n/t
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Lannigan Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:06 AM
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45. K & R - Go Hill!
:kick:
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:40 AM
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49. WOOHOO! Hillary got endorsed by another RIGHT-WING newspaper! Go Goldwater girl! n/t
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:37 AM
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47. Do you think they will withdraw it when
the "White N...." comment breaks the news?
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:45 AM
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50. No, this paper is owned by Dan Quayle's relatives. They support the right-wing candidate Hillary. nt
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:45 AM
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51. I'll bet they are so freaking sorry they did that -- credibility = 0
Talk about having egg on your face. Not only will Hillary fail, the Star has just shot its credibility.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:48 AM
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53. Dan Quayle endorses Hillary! Yay!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:21 AM
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59. BTW, who did the right-wing New York Post endorse?
I was so outraged by atrocity of Hillary's new hair color -- the inauthentic liar she is -- that I forgot.

--p!
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:23 AM
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60. HILLARY CLINTON! YAY! Three Cheers and Congrats all around.
:toast:



:bounce:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:47 PM
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64. largest paper in the state
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:47 PM by bigtree
wow

kinda underhanded praise from them though . . . oh well :toast:
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