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JanErikFl Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:59 AM
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ABC News Deleted Jake Tappers Political Punch blog article on the Fake Kantor Video
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:00 PM
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1. good, cause it is fake... legs undercut!
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:06 PM
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14. no, you see the part where he called the hoosiers shitty is very clear to hear.
doesn't matter whether he said the N%^&#%^ part or not...

spin spin spin...
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:10 PM
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21. he is clearly saying "shitting" not "shit"
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:12 PM by northzax
and clearly referring to the White House when he says that.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:24 PM
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34. This is exactly what he said. "Look at Indiana, wait wait, look at Indiana.......
42-40. It doesn't matter if we win, those people are shit. Oh, excuse me."

He then goes on to make a comment about Texas being even and something about the White House, referring to the fact that HW Bush would lose his home state.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:42 PM
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50. I clearly hear
"look at indiana, wait wait, look at indiana...42-40, those people are shitting oh, excuse me. How'd you like to be at the White House, how'd you like to be in Texas right now"

remember the context, Bill Clinton had NO CHANCE to win Indiana, to see a poll that showed that they were ahead in Indiana made them ecstatic, it meant they were winning everywhere.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:16 PM
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27. once again, you are WRONG. says shitting.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:16 PM by Texas Hill Country
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:25 PM
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35. Doesn't say shitting, says shit. "Those people are shitting" makes no sense. n/t
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:27 PM
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36. Pres. Johnson called Texans "goat-fucking farmers and oil-pressed greasers".
Pres. Johnson called Texans "goat-fucking farmers and oil-pressed greasers". And he was from TX. Sorry-- I'll try to get worked up or outraged about this, but I don;t think it's going to happen.

But I promise-- when there actually is a valid reason for me to worked up or outraged over, I will be...
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:06 PM
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15. Did you see the video?
How is it fake? I don't understand.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:00 PM
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2. The Clintons are still very powerful people
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:03 PM
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7. no shit, Tapper's article was true
and yet it has been pulled?

This is exactly why the Clintons should never be back in the White House.
They run things like a Mafia.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:05 PM
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11. They had lawyers threatening lawsuits, and the media are lazy cowards
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:01 PM
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3. I hope Ed Shultz is next
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:05 PM
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10. ok mccarthy... you'll be left with rush, o'reilly, and.... taylor marsh...
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:06 PM
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12. Ed Shultz lied and slandered another person
He should take the heat over this just like the person who doctored the video and posted it
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:07 PM
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he did call the indiana voters shitty... the n%^%$#% comment i couldn't hear...
callingthem shitty is still bad enough....

how's hannity lately?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:15 PM
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25. um, not what he said
he said "they must be shitting" clearly referring to the White House as they watched Perot make the race in Indiana very close.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:41 PM
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39. looks like a shit load of people here at du
better shut their mouths cause the big baby is pissed off...
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:01 PM
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4. Wow!! I wonder if they are going to get blockbuster to remove it from their shelves
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:02 PM
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5. Yep. Mess with the Clintons and you're disappeared.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:03 PM
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6. They have to protect their investment in Stephanopolous
No way they'll let this be played on ABC because they have too much money invested, both in Stephanopolous and in Clkinton winning the nomination.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:07 PM
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17. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:17 PM
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28. Wow, ad hominems
Resorting to ad hominems demonstrates a lack of an argument to counter the original point.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:04 PM
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8. so how did they doctor the original??? I listened to it on my headphones and it is there too!
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:04 PM
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9. Bummer he wasted time writing about a FAKE news item, Next up, stories peeled from the Onion
What a bunch of dingle-berries.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:13 PM
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23. have you seen this?........


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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:06 PM
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13. They owe Cantor and apology
As does anyone who ran with this story without checking the facts.

All they had to do was view the movie it came from and ask about the raw footage.

Instead, they decided to run it without fact checking and now I hope Kantor sues them for libel and slander!
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:07 PM
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16. He is suing
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:07 PM
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19. good for him! (n/t)
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:07 PM
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18. It;'s still on the other networks
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:09 PM by powergirl
I just checked and it remains on Politico and Huffington. I think it is no coincidence that it was pulled from ABC since George Steph. works there. :tinfoilhat:
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:43 PM
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40. Politico has the director of the film
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:34 PM
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47. But Mr. Kantor
gives another story about his "shit" comments. He has a different story than the film director. Hence, another lie. The director is also a Clinton supporter. Kantor just needs to apologize and move on. It will go away a lot faster.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:42 PM
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51. It's already over
Karl Rove had his kicks and is laughing at how he was able to lead us around like lemmings.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:09 PM
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20. Screenshot
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:41 PM
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38. abc was smart to delete that smear. But BHO fans will keep for their smears.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:10 PM
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22. Can someone explain this to me please?
I watched the video and he very clearly appears to say what Tapper claims.

Are you saying the raw footage doesn't have him saying that? How so? I mean I saw his mouth moving and I heard the words... I just don't understand the claims that this is a fake.

I know, I know. Hillary people hate me, but can any of you just explain for 2 seconds so I can understand this issue?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:18 PM
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31. what he says is
"they must be shitting" referring to the people in the White House as they watched poll numbers from Indiana. it is very clearly in reference to the White House.

and what video did you watch? the originial? did you hear the word 'nigger'? honestly? would you swear, under penalty of perjury, that you heard the word 'nigger'?
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:23 PM
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33. I didn't hear anything about the N-word.
All I saw was the "those people are shit" clip. It sure SEEMED legit... I'm sure you can understand why people thought it was.

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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:04 PM
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45. right
but if you listen to the rest of the clip, it is obvious that what he said was 'those people are shitting" referring to the Bush White House.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:56 PM
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44. you don't get it yet?
to a hillary supporter the truth is like silly putty.
it folds to any shape needed.
if she tells them the sky is green they will argue that point until she decides on another color.
she will send them out like flying monkey soldiers when she says "god bless the rich"and have supporters all claim she said "god blessed the rich", then, hours later, when she knows she is indeed caught, she issues the truth but claims a context issue
like robots they spew the new line and act as if the previous lie was never uttered
they see the world reflected through her and so they see lies everywhere.because they know what a massive liar she is.
to shore themselves up, they argue all are liars.
when they spot the cancer of corruption that consumes her they spew all are corrupt
they live now in a constant state of projection of their own bad character
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:55 PM
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52. Oh. My bad
:)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:15 PM
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24. k and
REC.


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JanErikFl Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:16 PM
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26. Link to the original video: 08:12 minutes long, the doctored Kantor is taken from 04:43
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:17 PM
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29. nothing doctored about it
and if he didn't say it why is he saying 'excuse me'?
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:44 PM
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41. Probably for swearing
People in my office apologize all the time for that.
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my2cent Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:18 PM
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30. Rise hillary rise
:bounce: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:32 PM
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37. Tee-heee....
doctored my ass! Thanks for that!!
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:45 PM
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43. I know you want very badly to believe this
but why would the director of the film lie?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Pennebaker_Clip_Doctoered.html

Especially when he knows there are lawyers involved. His ass would be covered if it was the truth.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:35 PM
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48. Did you see ABC has it back...
up on it's blog? I wonder how many people will be watching "The War Room". It's all pretty funny.

The Mystery of "The War Room" Clip

May 02, 2008 1:43 PM
-------And a 1995 story in the Sydney Morning Herald said that "As for the good folk of Indiana, they are still recovering from the 1993 documentary War Room, which revealed the grim truth behind the Clinton election campaign. It showed Mr Kantor bursting in on election night to tell other campaign staffers that incredibly, Mr Clinton was doing well even in Republican Indiana. 'And those people are s---!' he declared breathlessly."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/the-mystery-of.html
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Secret_Society Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:19 PM
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32. They don't want to get Dan Rathered
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techtrainer Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:44 PM
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42. nothing doctored - except the sound and subtitles
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:04 PM
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46. I'd rather see a retraction, if that's what they intend. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:38 PM
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49. Jake Tapper reposted
on the Kantor issue:

It's all a mess, though I must say when "The War Room" came out other folks interpreted Kantor to be impugning Indiana residents.

In The Washington Post's review of the film in 1993, critic Desson Howe referred to "a Mickey Kantor comment about the people of Indiana (when it looks as though Clinton's ahead in Dan Quayle's state)."

And a 1995 story in the Sydney Morning Herald said that "As for the good folk of Indiana, they are still recovering from the 1993 documentary War Room, which revealed the grim truth behind the Clinton election campaign. It showed Mr Kantor bursting in on election night to tell other campaign staffers that incredibly, Mr Clinton was doing well even in Republican Indiana. 'And those people are s---!' he declared breathlessly."



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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:57 PM
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53. As an Obama supporter, I'm glad they took it down.... this doesn't pass the smell test....


Remember DebateTapeGate in 2000 and DoctoredNatGuardFilesGate in 2004.


This smells like a set up.
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