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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:39 PM
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A disgraceful political smear and political hit job by Team Obama.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:41 PM by NJSecularist
They should be ashamed of themselves. They have just stooped one step lower than Karl Rove. This is the worst - and most despicable - hit job I have ever seen in politics. It is absolutely disgusting, and Team Obama should be ashamed of themselves.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/02/clinton-adviser-claims-in_n_99810.html
A former aide to President Bill Clinton, and current informal adviser to Sen. Hillary Clinton, expressed outrage and shock on Friday after a videotape from 1992 surfaced allegedly showing him describing Indianans as "white n---rs."

Mickey Kantor, who served as campaign chairman during Clinton's 1992 run for the White House and says he has offered help and advice to Sen. Clinton, insisted that the tape was a fraud and that he was exploring legal steps against the individual who posted it online.

"I've never used that word in my entire life, ever, under any circumstance, ever," an angry Kantor told The Huffington Post, citing his and his parent's work fighting for civil rights. "I have listened to and so have you. You can't tell what it is I'm saying in that second sentence, you can't decipher that."

Indeed, a review of the original copy of the 1993 film The War Room, from which the excerpt was taken (around the 4:40 mark) is virtually inaudible. The sound suggests, if anything, that instead of saying "How would you like to be a worthless white n****r?" Kantor says, "How would you like to be in the White House right now?"

The director of the film, moreover, says that Kantor never uttered those words. "He does not say that. He does not say that," D.A. Pennebaker told Ben Smith.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Pennebaker_Clip_Doctoered.html
I just spoke to D.A. Pennebaker, the director of "The War Room," who said his film had been doctored to produce a widely-viewed YouTube clip.

In a clip from his film on the 1992 Clinton campaign, posted to YouTube today, Clinton advisor Mickey Kantor is -- according to subtitles -- seen referring to Indianans with an expletive and to his colleague George Stephanopolous with a racial slur.

"He does not say that. He does not say that," said Pennebaker, after viewing the clip.

He said the initial expletive referred to the anticipated reaction in the Bush White House to the fact that Ross Perot's polling numbers were holding strong.

"What he says is he’s surprised Perot’s numbers are holding," said Pennebaker in a brief phone interview. "He says they must be shi**ing in the White House."

The second expletive, he said, appeared to have been entirely fabricated, with new audio dubbed onto the original movie.

Pennebaker appeared surprised and amused by the video.

"A thousand people saw that film in theaters and didn't think" the second expletive had been used, he said. "It's very clearly understandable. It's not like it was in Bulgarian."

In an earlier version posted yesterday, the clip was circulating with a subtitle indicating -- Pennebaker says inaccurately -- that Kantor had insulted Indianans; the racial slur appears to have been added to the second version.

The audio in both versions isn't clearly audible; it's possible that the subtitles are incorrect, but that the audio hasn't been deliberately altered.

UPDATE: I spoke to the editor of the video who said that he enhanced, but didn't alter, the audio in the second portion of the video.


Shame on whomever in the Obama campaign did this. :puke:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:40 PM
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1. Where is the proof it was Obama?
That is on the same level as the video - if it was fake.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:42 PM
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8. No shit. What does Obama have to do with this crap?
Wouldn't you hate to be on HilLIARy's staff? Who knows what bomb is going off next.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:44 PM
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21. This is a "bomb"? And I suppose you haven't read the posts accusing HRC of being
behind every real and imagined shenanigan?

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:08 PM
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59. I was referring to HER stink bombs.
HilLIAry gaffes on ice. It's a production.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:45 PM
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THE EXACT SAME THING HILLARY HAD TO DO WITH REV WRIGHT, hypocrites.
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The_Counsel Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:59 PM
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Whatever. A Lil' Perspective, Please...
Obama didn't circulate the Kantor Klip.

No member of the Obama campaign circulated the Kantor Klip.

Obama himself has yet to comment on the Kantor Klip.

No member of the Obama campaign has commented the Kantor Klip.

MEANWHILE...

Hillary herself has commented several times on Rev. Wright.

So has Howard Wolfson.

I'm sure Mark Penn would have also had Hillary not fired his butt.

True, the Wright controversy has been pushed mostly by the M$M to promote the horse race in the hopes of getting their brokered convention ratings bonanza, but that doesn't mean both Hillary and her campaign didn't take part in it for political gain. You want "hypocracy?" There ya go...
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:11 PM
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64. Hillary is STILL WAGGING her tongue over Wright. LAST NIGHT
Edited on Fri May-02-08 01:12 PM by votesomemore
she was on an interview and this is what she does. SHE REPEATS ALL THE FILTHY THINGS Wright has said and then refutes them. SHE IS REPEATING THAT THE GOVERNMENT INVENTED AIDS ... ETC. I hate her freaking guts so much.

They are clueless if they think Obama's campaign is this classless. They have in mind their own candidate and can't see beyond her pure profaneness.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:40 PM
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95. YES, yes and YES.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:00 PM
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50. Have you heard Obama jump on this and try to use it to his
political advantage the way Hillary tried to put Wright's words in Obama's mouth?
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:07 PM
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58. Wright is real, this is fake. n/t
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:14 PM
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67. Have you heard Obama jump on this and try to use it to his
benefit the way Hillary tried to put Wright's words in Obama's mouth? Wright is Wright. Kantor is Kantor. Obama is Obama. Clinton is Clinton.

Tell me where you heard Obama say anything offensive about this country. Yet Hillary's supporters keep trying to paint him as being such.

Hillary may not be very good at ducking under non-existant sniper-fire, but she sure is good at pulling the trigger and firing bullshit.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:15 PM
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69. No, just the crazed O-zombies here in GDP
You all have been going fucking CRAZY on this all day.

Bake
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:18 PM
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76. When do O supporters ever need proof when making outrageous smears against Clinton?
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:38 PM
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93. they don't deal in proof
all they have is fantasy, you know..like Hillary can still win.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:07 PM
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102. Got any proof for that totally ridiculous accusation?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:41 PM
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2. Get a grip. If you consider this to be the worst "hit job" then you haven't seen much politics.
It's not and it wouldn't be even if it was.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:41 PM
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3. Where does it say that Obama did this?
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:42 PM
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10. shhh, don't spoil the poutrage...
:)
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:46 PM
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28. Say what? WHO was "poutraged" first, about this video??
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:19 PM
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77. exactamundo. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:29 PM
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85. you folks should stop pulling smears from Drudge.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:45 PM
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25. Probably the same place it says the Clintons are suppressing A-A votes.
Oh, wait; that was here on DU.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:55 PM
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45. Sorry, that won't fly
Who said Obama's camp was behind this?
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:42 PM
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4. It is pathetic
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Ashy Larry Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:42 PM
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5. Shame on your mother.
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:42 PM
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6. OMFG Obama wuz behide dis all da whey!!!
Your thread title has about as much to do with the articles posted as the price of tea in China. Nice try, though. It's obvious someone threw open the pen at the mental giant farm.



You stay classy!
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:42 PM
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7. The incident is shameful, but it could have been Karl Rove or anyone else.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:47 PM
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30. Remember that, the next time it's HILLARY who is accused of dirty tricks.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:51 PM
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42. thanks, I have a good memory.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:02 PM
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51. Of course it was Karl Rove
Anyone who doesn't see that is just not looking. He was also likely behind the whole Rev Wright thing. He takes joy is jerking around the democrats and it's sickening that we're obliging him.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:09 PM
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61. yep, he especially loves "twofers"
where both candidates are hurt by something.

I don't have any proof of course, so I don't want to be guilty of making accusations even against TurdBlossom, but this one looks like Republican tricks patented during the Nixon era.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:14 PM
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66. This is classic Karl Rove
I remember a story where he accused the dems of breaking into a campaign headquarters and it was him all along. The man has no morals and is laughing his ass off right now. Makes me furious.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:42 PM
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9. Please provide proof that the Obama campaign was behind this. Otherwise you are spreading a smear.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:47 PM
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32. Why don't you take it up with the smear-mongerers against Hillary?
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:10 PM
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63. No, I am addressing this post which is throwing out an accusation with zero evidence.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:42 PM
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11. Gads, are you gullible. Wanna buy a bridge? n/t
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:42 PM
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12. Prove it.
who originally posted the video on You Tube? Does he have any connection to the campaign? Back up your accusations.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:43 PM
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13. If anyone planted this, it was Team Clinton in order to blame Obama,
shed a few tears and get the sympathy vote from the downtrodden whites of Indiana. If they did plant it, the whole thing might backfire on them.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:48 PM
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36. OMG. Yes, it always must be Hillary, even if her camp comes under fire. PATHETIC hatred.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:03 PM
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54. You sound as stupid as the people blaming
the Obama campaign. It was obviously a Karl Rove hit job and he's laughing his ass off right now knowing he can jerk us around this way.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:43 PM
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14. Stop with the kneejerk accusations...Obama's campaign doesn't do this stuff.....
Both Obama supporters and Clinton supporters are going a bit extreme on this!
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:43 PM
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15. You don't have any proof that Obama did this.
It's much more likely that this is a right-wing bastard getting two Democrats with one video.
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my2cent Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:43 PM
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16. call them desperate
:rofl: :rofl:
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:43 PM
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17. ...and I thought it was Clinton who was always unjustifiably blamed for things.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:43 PM by Cant trust em
My how quickly memes change when the shoe is on the other foot.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:49 PM
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37. And you defended her then? I suspect not.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:55 PM
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44. You're right. I didn't. and it was after that when I came to my senses.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:58 PM by Cant trust em
It was a few months ago when Drudge posted that picture of Obama dressed in traditional Somali attire. I jumped on the Clinton bashbus and blamed her first. Then I took a step back and looked in the mirror and didn't like what I saw. So from that point I decided to take the high road. Unfortunately it seems like the high road is a lonely road.

Oh, and by the way, I'm not using this opportunity to bash her either.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:43 PM
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You have no proof it was from the Obama Campaign....n/t
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:43 PM
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You've overplayed your hand. My money is definitely on Camp Clinton.
When you have a candidate that sucks, what else can you rely upon except dirty tricks.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:50 PM
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38. Quoth the Obama supporters: WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:43 PM
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18. show us your evidence or shut the fuck up.
pathetic hypocrite
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:51 PM
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41. Hypocrisy has many friends here.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:44 PM
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19. could you offer some proof that "Team Obama" was behind this?
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:44 PM
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20. You have no proof it was from the Obama Campaign....n/t
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:45 PM
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26. Their numbers are tanking in Indiana, seems like a good reason to distribute this video.
A vile and dirty smear by Team Obama, who prides themself on a "new type of politics".
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:47 PM
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31. motive is not the same as proof
There needs to be this little, teensy-weensy thing called evidence.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:48 PM
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33. I guess that means Clinton was behind the Madrassa story then, huh?
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:48 PM
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35. So conspiracy theory. No proof. Nice. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:27 PM
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83. that is what the Obama camp
is hoping......no proof (yet). they hoped to get it by till next Tues.


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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:32 PM
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87. You still have no proof....
Who is to gain from all of this? Not Hillary, or Obama...think GOP-PNAC, they are playing to win, they have too much to lose. And they are playing us, knowing we are vicious in our support of our candidates, the Target isnt just Obama or Clinton, its the ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.


THEY HAVE TOO MUCH TO LOSE, if they lose in November.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:38 PM
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94. even it that were true how would that be proof of anything. Sounds like projection on your part.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:44 PM
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22. Only flaw in your arguement is it's WRONG, he did call them "shit"
other than that, great post
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:45 PM
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23. Let's not jump to conclusions.
I seriously hope and doubt that no one in the Obama campaign was stupid or cruel enough to pull off such a blatant forgery.

Probably just an overzealous Obama supporter in his basement.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:45 PM
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24. BO's desperate lemmings have become a cancer on society
:puke: :puke: :puke:


:dunce: :hangover:

:hurts: :freak:


:nuke: :scared:
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:53 PM
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43. You got some issues with honesty. That must be why you're a hillarian.
Too bad for you.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:04 PM
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55. MSNBC retracts and corrects
Here ya go

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/02/972175.aspx


"You got some issues with honesty.""Too bad for you." teehee

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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:16 PM
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72. Some issues with reading comprehension too.
Obama had nothing to do with it so stop saying it. I've posted repeatedly how I thought I couldn't hear it and the first part was "they are shittin'" talking about the white House.

You on the other hand, are trying to blame the Obama camp which is dishonest and you know it. too bad for you.
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:45 PM
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27. Not quite as lame as inventing ties to Obama campaign for it though
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:46 PM
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29. You realize that the more you deny it,
the truthier it gets in the eyes of the MSM watchers.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:48 PM
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34. Unless you have proof that Obama's campaign did this you should change your subject line.
Baseless accusations don't help either candidate.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:50 PM
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39. The tape is what it is... even if it slid under the racist radar for years.
I saw the original and he did say it. Now people want to blame the Obama camp but sorry that won't work. While Clinton and her supporters were sliming Obama for something he didn't say... turn about is fair play. Is racism American or Un-American? You decide.

I say racism is Un-American but some of you on the other side, some of you Republican wannebes seem to be okay with it.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:59 PM
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48. It has been debunked, and you are still running with it. WOW.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:18 PM
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75. Debunked.
Carry on with your hate.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:51 PM
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40. How do you deal with modern life, I have to wonder.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:52 PM by votesomemore
It's obviously been faked. I'm sure Obama will not try to make this fly.

What kind of pea brain leaps to your conclusion?
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:56 PM
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46. I think Hillary did this in some weird act of (deserved) self-flagellation
Why? wtf knows or cares at this point? The woman is a republican, and they go in for that sort of thing.



Now where is the :sarcasm.sorta: icon?
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:57 PM
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47. Let the people of Indiana judge this for themselves.
:evilgrin:
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:00 PM
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49. You have no proof whatsoever
that this came from the campaign. Nobody knows where it came from and to state the campaign is involved with absolutley no proof is as bad as the original fake video was.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:02 PM
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52. K&R...some of the repugnant, lunatic replies to the OP only confirms it...
...how low will you people go?
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:03 PM
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53. Show me proof
that this came from the Obama campaign and I will share your outrage - and I mean from the campaign, not some idiot claming to be a supporter putting out trash from his garage sound studio.

Until then, cool your jets.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:17 PM
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73. HilLIARY's and her camp's Mantra: Stop Hitting Me! (picks up stick, hits self, falls in a pile of
Edited on Fri May-02-08 01:20 PM by votesomemore
dog doo) YOU PUSHED ME!

Hapless victim, everyone of them.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:05 PM
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56. Is your name on this thread? Are you bashing "team Hillary" for worse things than this?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:06 PM
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57. I just told an Obama supporter there was no proof that this was a set up by HRC or the repubs
And I will tell you just as forcefully that there is no proof that this was done by the Obama "campaign"

If you have a scintilla of proof, share it.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:08 PM
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60. They Know The Tape Was Doctored Because They Doctored It Back Then......
to not make it look offensive. Now that someone amplified the sound and we can hear exactly what was said - they say someone doctored it. Right.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:09 PM
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62. Hey Windsock! I didn't enjoy your flamebait rants againt Hillary.
They have not improved not that you are against Obama.
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washingdem Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:13 PM
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65. Yeah, this was way worse than the African garb photo. Give me a break.
By the way NJSecularist, how is 9.2 greater than 10 again?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:15 PM
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68. Blah de blah de blah blah blah. We got it, on to the next, please.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:17 PM
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74. No
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:16 PM
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70. And doesn't this prove one thing about Obama's blogcult ...
they will put up absolutely anything on their blogs as long as it smears Hillary, regardless of any proof of authenticity. And then on top of this ridiculous behavior ,they taunt the less powerful posters on the internet to go into meltdown mode, giving instructions to copy and paste their fraudulent data and send it to all the major news outfits.

Obama's blogcult should hang their heads in shame as to what they have become; they truly have bastardized the promise of the internet with their deceptive practices - one's we once trusted are now as big a fraud as the one they themselves tried to castigate - Karl Rove and his merry band of corrupt neocons.

As in the forged yellowcake documents they reported on, they are just as fraudulent.


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washingdem Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:19 PM
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78. Yeah - how about when you guys defended the photo of Obama in African garb...
... and pretended to be ignorant as to the fear tactics involved of suggesting he's a Muslim? Disgusting.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:20 PM
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79. Was the picture forged?
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washingdem Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:26 PM
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82. There you go again, this is what's so disgusting...
You pretend to be ignorant to the fear tactics involved. The picture wasn't forged; the issue is the intended effect. You can argue that Hillary was not responsible for the photo circulating, but you make yourself look very bad when you try and defend its circulation. You either look ignorant, or feigning ignorance, either one is embarrassing.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:36 PM
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90. The point is that the video was forged.
Nothing more, nothing less.
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washingdem Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:38 PM
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92. Doesn't excuse the garb thing and you know it, which is why you just changed the subject
And the video wasn't forged, it was from a documentary called The War Room.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:23 PM
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81. So you're saying Obama invented the blogosphere?
Obama supporters are the FIRST EVER in the history of the Internets to DECEIVE ANYONE!!!

You heard it here.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:34 PM
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89. Nope that's not what I am saying.
Sorry.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:16 PM
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71. Asinine
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:22 PM
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80. Pennebaker is spinning
Edited on Fri May-02-08 01:23 PM by ProSense
Jake Tapper reposted on the Kantor issue:

It's all a mess, though I must say when "The War Room" came out other folks interpreted Kantor to be impugning Indiana residents.

In The Washington Post's review of the film in 1993, critic Desson Howe referred to "a Mickey Kantor comment about the people of Indiana (when it looks as though Clinton's ahead in Dan Quayle's state)."

And a 1995 story in the Sydney Morning Herald said that "As for the good folk of Indiana, they are still recovering from the 1993 documentary War Room, which revealed the grim truth behind the Clinton election campaign. It showed Mr Kantor bursting in on election night to tell other campaign staffers that incredibly, Mr Clinton was doing well even in Republican Indiana. 'And those people are s---!' he declared breathlessly."


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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:27 PM
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84. As the Space Marines say:
The Emperor Projects!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:29 PM
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86. Rove is playing his fiddle & we're dancing to his tune.
The Obamainians stopped when they realized they were being made to look like fools. The question is: Will the Clintonites stop too?
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:32 PM
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88. So does this OP, which is an attempt at a smear job of Obama, come from
Edited on Fri May-02-08 01:32 PM by pdxmom
the Clinton Team? Sure must be, since I say so.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:36 PM
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91. You're wrong per Jake Tapper:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5784243

Please acknowledge your mistake just like how many Obama supporters have admitted their mistake for falling for the video. It is only fair.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:40 PM
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96. Obama camp?
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:45 PM
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97. It waas wrong to blame the Obama camp
There is no evidence of thqt, and the Republicans gain from furthering Democrtic infighting also.

P.S., I am on a different computor right now. A weird cookie problem has been keeping me from logging on to DU from my own for a few days. Bah!
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:53 PM
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98. Disgraceful is mild. But, yes disgraceful.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:03 PM
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99. You've got some nerve
Where is your proof before attributing this to the Obama campaign.

Possibly this was posted by an Obama supporter. Maybe it was just some rabble-rouser. Who could possibly know.

At any rate, seems like just desserts for Hillary.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:04 PM
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100. I like your style. DU's been a real HOOT today, hasn't it?
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:09 PM
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103. Yes, it has.
His supporters support Obama and his campaign message of a "new type of politics", yet they are very willing to propagate smears in order to help their candidate's chance to win next Tuesday. A bunch of hypocrites if you ask me. I regret ever supporting Obama. A good majority of his supporters on the netroots are a bunch of hypocrites. And it seems his campaign doesn't play by the rules that they themselves are trying to preach about.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:07 PM
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101. When I saw this post, I thouoght this was pre-Ohio Hillary Clinton... she used the same words,
didn't she?
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:10 PM
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104. She said "Shame on you, Barack Obama".
And I thought it was political grandstanding at the time. I still do. But this incident by Team Obama takes the cake for their willingness to propagate dirty smears.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:16 PM
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107. well weep while you're accusing... Jake said Obama had nothing to do with this
so stop accusing the obama people. Look at the real tape yourself.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5784243
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:10 PM
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105. You should be ashamed of yourself for blaming the Obama campaign without proof
Look at the Clinton camp for sleaze.

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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:12 PM
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106. Team Obama -- Gutter politics --- NT
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:17 PM
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108. Stop blaming Obama and read... inform yourself
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:20 PM
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109. Operation CHAOS - Hello...
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:47 PM
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110. Don't be stupeid. this is pure GOP mischief
Some of you are postitively clueless! Do you really think anyone from the Obama campaign would be that dumb?
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