So I pulled out my DVD of the War Room... it's pretty clear that the video was grossly distorted....

In the actual version, Carville and GS are talking about all of the polling results. They go down a list of states, not just Indiana. Everything that was said except for the Indiana part is cut out.

Then Kantor walks up and says, "Those people are shitting." He then says, "In the White House." It's very clear, I have headphones on and I've listened to it 20 times now.

On the bright side of things, it's actually a great movie about Presidential campaigns.

War Room +15

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5782886&mesg_id=5782886

back in 93 were commenting on the desparaging remarks about Indiana voters.

If not, well, I'll have to believe that IS what he said.

In reality, I don't care. I just hope he steps down so we can get beyond the distraction. His role in the campaign is not that important. It would be easy for him to step aside gracefully. I've no doubt the campaign is working on this now.

Kantor is talking about White House reaction to the new poll numbers.

Already Bought by Clinton?

Funny that First Read at MSNBC is flatly denying that is what is being said.

They back up what people are saying about the Youtube video's floating around.

He clears says "The people are shitting, you can clearly hear "ing" in the audio when you turn up the volume. He then says "White House" not "White n_______s". It's very clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U

Bout the 4:45 mark.

"Those people are shitting, excuse me." "How would you like to be one of those people in the White House right now."

Which is it?

That's the original.

I have listened to it probably 10 times and what I hear does not match up with you you say you hear. Your OP is misleading because everyone is already debating what was said on the Youtube version. You suggested it sounded different on the original movie and now you are backtracking.

He clearly says "They must be shitting" and then goes on to talk about "the people in the White House." Honestly, if you're actually listening, it's pretty damn obvious.

if Indiana was polling for Bush at the time--which it was (clinton lost Indiana) why would they be "shittin' in the WH"?:shrug:

You are exactly right, he never said anything offensive. they were wrong in 93 too.

how many movie reviewers do you think reviewed the film back in 1993?

Is it possible that those two were WRONG?

to my ears he clearly says "Shit" and not "Shitting".

And neither does anyone else, including those two reviewers. The burden of proof is on the people making the nasty interpretations, not on Kantor.

Kool-Aid. It does a body bad.

.........that anything Wright said Obama agreed with.

Its kinda fun watching the Clinton supporters twisting themselves into knots trying to now claim what Cantor said doesnt represent Clinton's views.

They really ARE crazed.

No, not ALL Obama supporters -- but a whole lot of them. It's completely amazing.

They jumped on the story with glee. Mania. Irrational exuberance.

Then, they tried mightily to blame the Clinton campaign for it anyway; it was a "false flag op".

Now, there's a whole lot of "I knew it was a fake all along".

Tomorrow, they will be lecturing us that "it's time to move on".

I don't get the intensity of the hatred for Hillary, either -- or for Bill -- even if all the defamation is somehow true. Voting "wrong" has never been tantamount to murder; presidents have never been held accountable for the dictates of the UN. I never "got it" when the Right was fulminating over them, and I sure don't "get" the factions of the Left who are fulminating over them these days.

Furthermore, the Hillary haters are actively courting disaster for Obama. They have forgotten how the public reacted the last time the Clintons were under attack. The over-the-top behavior of the blogosphere against the Clintons is becoming better known, and it's probably part of this week's drop in Obama's polling.

This has turned into a circus. Hillary is doing well keeping her mouth shut and letting the crazies in Obama's crew destroy themselves. It's kind of like political natural selection. And my own fellow partisans should learn from it, too -- hubris isn't a good thing. Whom the gods would destroy they first drive mad. And whom the gods would drive mad they first install broadband for.

--p!

Kantor today denied to the Huffington Post that he had called Hoosiers "shit." "I was talking about the polling and not the people," Kantor said.

So was he talking about the Pollsters as he claims, or about the White House as another Hillarite spin claims?

They have contradicted themselves.
That is what happens when you are telling lies.

He called Hoosiers Shit and that's that. This is even noted in reviews of the film and news articles from the time.

if this is the correct tape then I'm wrong about him...

It'll be all over in a day or two when someone gets a sound pro to block out the background noise and isolate his words.

I heard shitting but couldn't make out the rest, him saying white niggers is a stretch

it seems a lot of folks here don't care about facts anymore.

No, I won't paste it again but here is the link to his words:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Pennebaker_Clip_Doctoered.html

And when all this "moral outrage" when flying like monkey poop at the zoo, I took a look at the clip and remembered that this was my favorite line. I cracked up when I watched it.

People bought that fake clip hook, line and sinker and now are trying bullshit there way out of looking like fools.