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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:25 PM
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Poll question: Who is responsible for DoctoredTapeGate?
Edited on Fri May-02-08 02:26 PM by Lirwin2
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:26 PM
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1. Push poll. nt
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:27 PM
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2. Definitely not the Obama campaign
Tapper said that nobody from the campaign sent this. Could be any of the other possibilities.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:28 PM
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3. You left out the CLINTON campaign.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:29 PM
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5. Erm...
Talk to your doctor. Fast.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:31 PM
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7. Um.... see "Debatetapegate 2000" or "DoctoredNationalGuardDocs 2004".... this is Rovian.... and
more likely to be done by the Clinton campaign that anyone else.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:29 PM
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34. Maybe you missed the point of the video. It was meant to smear the clinton
camp. in Indiana. Your eagerness to smear Hillary is shining through.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:29 PM
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4. According to Politico, someone named "Bingofrogger" put up the subtitled youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-MzByUHIzw
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:40 PM
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15. That's Not the One That Was All Over the Place This Morning
The one that spread all over the place had a multiple choice question in the text at the start of the video, and the poster's nick was "indy___" or indi___" (I forget the rest of the tag but think it was a couple of numbers).
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:40 PM
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36. Intersting. BingoFrogger's video is the one Politco's Ben Smith links as the original.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Pennebaker_Clip_Doctoered.html
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:30 PM
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CLINTON!!!! she is trying to sound tough to Repugs so they will endorse her!!!!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:27 PM
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31. oh yeah, she would want to hurt her chances in Indiana. You look foolish saying that.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:30 PM
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6. Other
Edited on Fri May-02-08 02:30 PM by DJ13
The Clinton campaign doctored a separate clip mentioning "white N______s" to try and claim the real clip calling Indiana voters "sh*t" was also not real.

Some of you are being played as fools.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:31 PM
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8. You sound like a rightwing conspiracy theorist
Edited on Fri May-02-08 02:31 PM by Lirwin2
Let me guess... Hillary went back in time and started the Holocaust? :eyes:
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:13 PM
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21. No, but it is curious how many DUers
believe she is responsible for everything Bush did.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:16 PM
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24. What are your thoughts on Rathergate?
if you were old enough to remember that far back.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:19 PM
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28. Hillary did it.
:eyes:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:20 PM
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30. My newspaper's in the bushes, again.
Hillary?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:32 PM
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42. That one was Chelsea
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:17 PM
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27. You're the one that started the conspiracy thread.
:rofl:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:15 PM
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23. Rathergate Redux
the thought crossed my mind.
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Lady-Damai Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:32 PM
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9. I don't like this poll. I believe the video is real and I don't care.


This doesn't hurt Hillary Clinton. Can we move on?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:32 PM
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:41 PM
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16. Sorry but you are wrong..
"(He also denied the legitimacy of another clip, which certainly seems doctored, in which he uses a horrible racial slur. I'd seen that clip -- not sent to me by anyone affiliated with the Obama campaign, I hasten to add -- but I had not posted it.)

Ben Smith of Politico today talked to D.A. Pennebaker, director of "The War Room," agreed that the racial slur was not Kantor's, that someone had doctored the video in that other clip."
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:33 PM
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11. My money is on Operation Chaos
That fat bastard is laughing his ass off right now.
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The_Counsel Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:34 PM
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12. My Money Is On "Enthusiastic Obama Supporters"
I'll even say "misguided Obama supporter." They probably did it as a way to both smear the Hillary campaign and to expose the double standard in the M$M. One stone, two birds.

I'm still baffled that people would even think the Obama CAMPAIGN had anything to do with it. The folks that are saying that are just reaching. With THIS kind of blowback potential, why on earth would they do that? I mean, SERIOUSLY think about that for a moment...

:shrug:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:37 PM
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13. So difficult to choose. . Which one is the dumbest?
:shrug:
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:38 PM
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14. Other: the Clinton campaign with an assist from BillO
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:43 PM
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17. IBTL
utter flamebait and better it disappears for all of our sakes, no matter whom you support.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:43 PM
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18. Roger Stone and the GOP Dept of Dirty Tricks? Divide to conquer?
These poll choices are stupid and naive but at least included an "other".
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:46 PM
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19. Rove
It's bad for both Democratic candidates, so it's good for the Rethugs.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:49 PM
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20. Other: Obamanoids
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:14 PM
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22. we don't know?
:shrug:
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:17 PM
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25. I don't know, but please don't call it "DoctoredTapeGate."
:puke:
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:17 PM
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26. Push poll.
Gotta love those thing. Alerted
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:20 PM
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29. Don't know. Don't care.
I consider it right up there with preacher-gate, flag-pin-gate, and Jockeys/Boxers-gate.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:27 PM
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32. The Clinton campaign
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:28 PM
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33. The Clinton Campaign, to distract attention from the robo-call scandal.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:39 PM
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35. Other: I don't care.
Don't fall for the distraction!
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:46 PM
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37. Responsibility for this one goes to.....
The supporters who thought it was a good idea to make "viral" doctored video. With supporters like that who needs enemies.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:01 PM
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39. Precisely - the doctored tape itself is one thing, but attempting to make it
go viral without research is what turned this into such a cluster..-./..-/-.-./-.- The backpedaling is reaching epic proportions.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:55 PM
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38. It was an Obama supporter, but denied being an official part of the
campaign. Which reflects badly on BO's supporters, for sure.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:56 PM
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40. Idiotic poll == My money's on the Clinton/Rove gang
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:02 PM
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41. most DU'ers choose "other"?
Perhaps it's not too late to get your money back for that deeply flawed college education, boys and girls.

Just to clarify the point of politics, the goal is to get people to vote for you. Creating a dubbed tape which gets aforementioned people to not vote for you is bad strategy. The fact that so many DU Obama supporters think it was diabolically clever strategy leads to a pessimistic outlook for November.

Your homework for tonight is to write an essay on the term "swiftboating".
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:49 PM
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43. Whoever made it--
and a basement-dwelling Barackaloon is my own bet--you can safely wager your paycheck, your spouse and your dog that Obama is down on his knees praying that whoever it was has never been within 100 miles of anyone associated with his campaign.

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