Black-Issues Group: Price To Pay If Clinton Wins Through Superdelegates

Black-Issues Group: Price To Pay If Clinton Wins Through Superdelegates



By:Sam Stein
stein@huffingtonpost.com.




One of the nation's largest Black American grassroots advocacy organizations is drawing a line in the sand for Democratic leadership: if Hillary Clinton is awarded the nomination by overturning the pledged delegate count there will be a political price to pay.

Color of Change, which has a reach of more than 400,000 people, is organizing a petition campaign to persuade superdelegates and congressional leaders that a Clinton win through the hands of party insiders would "disenfranchise millions" and constitute "a shocking attack on voting rights and democracy."

"Following this course," the letter reads, "would give your seal of approval to an 'electability' strategy executed by stoking race-based fear and division among voters. We expect that from the Republicans; we fight them on it every year. But now the leadership of the Democratic party is poised to cosign this strategy of division and disenfranchisement. This could be the worst mistake the Party has ever made, yet it's being talked about as a legitimate way for this campaign to end.

"The voters who have come out in record numbers to participate in the Democratic Party won't allow this to happen, and as the most visible leaders of the Party, you must reject the idea that the nomination can be won with a strategy that preys on racism, sows division, and disenfranchises millions of voters."

The letter campaign -- which appears to be the first organized effort to influence superdelegates on the part of an African-American-based group -- is designed to create a sense of political consternation among those undecided insiders considering bucking the pledged delegate tally. Superdelegates are, by definition, allowed to cast their votes by any metric they deem fit, whether it be the popular vote, elected delegate totals, or the perception of electability. Several party officials, however, have warned that the pledged delegate total should be preeminent in their decision making process.



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I don't have words...yet!

Don't think it's part of Obama's campiagn, but Obama needs to denounce this divisive shat! NOW!

SD's fear. Isn't that sweet?

Why would he denounce something that benefits him? Principle? Obama has thrown his granny and mentor under the bus for political gain. He would do anything to win and playing the race card is something he has proven to have no qualms about.

...consistently spewed slurs against African-Americans.

And Hillary supporters scoop up that shit and gobble it down like it is mana from heaven.

The Clintons, and people like you, have made it clear that you don't believe you need African-American votes, or even votes from Obama supporters.

So quit your whining about whether or not A-A's or BO supporters will use their political power in protest.

You don't need us, remember? So get over it. Move on.

After all, doing so clearly benefits them. :sarcasm: It is no coincidence the race card never appears before very white primaries, like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, and most of the Super Tuesday states.

She is also the one who has the endorsement of numerous bigots. :sarcasm:

She is also so dumb she plays the race card only when it benefits Obama. She is too dumb to realize that if she were going to use it SC, MS, and NC wouldn't be the places to do it (IA, OH, WI, and PA would, as well as before Super Tuesday). If there were any truth to the fairy tale about the Clintons playing the race card they would have played it to the hilt before Ohio and Texas when she was fighting for survival and blacks were going 90-10 for Obama anyway so there was nothing to lose by doing it. They didn't. In contrast Obama uses it whenever he suffers a significant loss (NH/NV, OH/TX, and now PA).

Obama has not ONCE made a racial slur.

And here's a hint: pointing out the Clintons' racial slurs is not "playing the race card." That is truly blaming the victim.

get almost all of the black vote so they want to get as much of the white vote as they can so they can say "Obama is not electable b/c he's a black man."

as far as I know

:shrug:

demanding that the super delegates overturn the will of the voters and install Hillary as the nominee, seat MI and FL despite them breaking the rules, and presume, without any proof, that she is more "electable"?

Didn't NOW write a similar letter? Didn't the Hillraisers threaten Pelosi over something similar?

The hypocrisy is astounding.

So, Women get to threaten the Democratic party even though their candidate is LOSING by all metrics, but this group can't when their preferred candidate is WINNING and they wish not to see the will of the voters overturned.

PRICELESS.

:rofl:

Would you expect Hillary to denounce this if it was a large group of white people sending the same mail? No? I thought not.

approach! I feel they are Threatening Our Party, as whole!

You don't need us right? do you really think we'll jsut fall in line if it's handed to her? Hillary will never be elected.

Its the candidiate that can only win by imploding it.

Is this mafia-style politics the "new kind of politics" he will bring?

Obama has nothing to do with this.

This talk is exclusively coming from the Obama camp and his silence speaks for itself. This shows what common sense told us in March: his race speech was just words to save his neck. It meant nothing substantively.

Did you happen to miss the hype here when he gave it? The speech was to save his neck regarding pastorgate and masquerading as starting a national discussion on race (a discussion Obama mysteriously stopped as soon as he left that podium...).

when, in fact, he is simply responding to their bigot-pandering slurs.

Obama's speech in response to the Hillary/Fox obsession on Wright was brilliant. There was no reason for him to continue the discussion after the speech was done. Unlike Hillary, he doesn't want to make this contest about race.

You also agree that Obama lied when he claimed he wanted to start a "discussion" on race? His speech was brilliant. He lied and managed to make the story about platitudes on race rather than the fact he admitted he had lied about pastorgate.

whereby Obama is required to reject and denounce every statement ever said by anybody with any controversy.

Is that too much to ask from an "agent of change"?

every last statement anybody makes, yes.

When is Hillary going to start doing some rejecting and denouncing? Not any time soon, nor should she be required to, even though some of you Hillary supporters are very over the top.

When Hillary rejects and denounces the blatant racism of Taylor MArsh, get back to me on this one.

...and even the Clintons cannot stop it.

Ferraro said "he is lucky to be a black man." Now his cronies are saying because he is black he is entitled to the nomination--or else.

The Obama's are using a "Sword and Shield" tactic!

...Did you really think that we were going to lay down like doormats and take that shit from the Clintons?

9.2% is not shit and it sure ain't 10%

!!

We must alert the guards!!11!! Obama must denounce and reject this!!11!!


:rofl:

Yeah, right after Hillary denounces and rejects NOW, Lulac, and the Hillraiser's threats against the DNC and Dean.

You people are sick.

..what do you expect the response from blacks to be?


Sheesh....

It's all about adding superdelegates to those counts. Once that's done you'll have a winner.

There isn't one now.

!!!

before the contest is over. Now they resort to blackmail.

I really don't like it.

I worry myself that it will get ugly if Hillary wins. I really want her to win, yet I fear it, too.

Why are you afraid?

...so just get over it, and move on.

We will use our political power to effect change, and you cannot stop it.

alert the guard!!11!! Hillary's coronation is "threatened" by the Blacks!!11!!!11

:rofl:

Says the same crowd who has threatened to "SHUT IT DOWN" at the Denver Convention if MI and FL aren't seated. Says the same crowd, where almost a QUARTER, says they will vote McCain if their Queen doesn't get the nomination despite the fact she didn't earn it.

Hillaryous.

These folks aren't all they claim to be . . .

But this idea of sending mails to the SD's with threats or implied threats is wrong by any group. Imagine the outcry if a large voting block of white people sent the same mail.

them.

<<<<<<snip>>>>
Previous Color of Change petitions have had their effects. In response to the Jena Six scandal, the group generated responses from more than 300,000 members, roughly the equivalent of all voters in the New Hampshire Democratic primary.

In this instance, they may have more political persuasion. The campaign plays off of an already existing concern within the party that a Clinton primary victory could leave the African-American community deeply distraught and less willing to offer its general election support.

Why do you think we've been seeing a "slow leak" of SDs toward Obama lately? It's Hillary's last legitimate argument that she might be more electable than Obama, and it's slowly but surely being choked off:



Expect the SD "traffic" to pick up if Obama wins NC and gets at least 40% of IN on Tuesday.

:headbang:
rocknation

...(who gives a shit about Democracy).

PB

their rightful place at our expense as well. I feel that if our votes don't count it is a matter of security and our kids futures on the line. So I signed it and noted I'm white and 50.

Four more years of Bush/McCain is not needed.

Pay back???

PS: Rezko CLinton!!!

...Look, at this point, Obama is going to win. But that won't mean that African-Americans, and other Obama supporters, won't remember the shit that Hillary and her supportrs have thrown at us.

It won't be long before the Dems will be accused of being held hostage by the black agenda and then you know what that means for the future.

Oh wait, that is different, right?

They dare not hand it to her if they ever want to win another election.

They should like learn about the process and stuff.

:rofl:

There's a difference between having the most votes and delegates and needing a few more to get you to the magic number, and having significanly less than the other person and needing WAY more to get you to the figure.

One is merely reinforcing the popular vote, the other is overturning it.

If Obama is the nominee, the AA base better turn out for him, because it's likely not many others will.